On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 03:30 -0700, macoovacany wrote:
> Pascal:
> I already had a copy, but had only read up to page 7. (D'oh). Just
> quickly skimming it now...
>
> ([Page 20]: "Elitist Lisp"... hmmm. I think it was probably a good
> thing that CL wasn't called this.
> Flexures? Sounds like fun, but for another topic.)
>
> OK. From what I can gather, the main motivating factor for the initial
> set of meetings in the Spring of 81 was:
>
> "If there were no consolidation in the Lisp community at this point,
> Lisp might have died. ARPA was not interested in funding a variety of
> needlessly competing and gratuitously different Lisp projects. And
> there was no commercial arena—yet." [Top of Page 20]
>
> So the difference between then and now was that ARPA was potentially
> going to keep funding lisp. (Apologies for the over-simplification. I
> have only skimmed it. Let me know about any other relevant factors.)
>
> Whether or not there is a commercial arena... I guess there is.
> Airline reservation systems, etc. (I don't need a list, it's on the
> commercial vendor's site).
The software you refer to runs on Open Source Lisps; SBCL and CCL.
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In article <··························@blackbox>,
Lars Rune Nøstdal <···········@gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, 2008-09-23 at 03:30 -0700, macoovacany wrote:
> > Pascal:
> > I already had a copy, but had only read up to page 7. (D'oh). Just
> > quickly skimming it now...
> >
> > ([Page 20]: "Elitist Lisp"... hmmm. I think it was probably a good
> > thing that CL wasn't called this.
> > Flexures? Sounds like fun, but for another topic.)
> >
> > OK. From what I can gather, the main motivating factor for the initial
> > set of meetings in the Spring of 81 was:
> >
> > "If there were no consolidation in the Lisp community at this point,
> > Lisp might have died. ARPA was not interested in funding a variety of
> > needlessly competing and gratuitously different Lisp projects. And
> > there was no commercial arena—yet." [Top of Page 20]
> >
> > So the difference between then and now was that ARPA was potentially
> > going to keep funding lisp. (Apologies for the over-simplification. I
> > have only skimmed it. Let me know about any other relevant factors.)
> >
> > Whether or not there is a commercial arena... I guess there is.
> > Airline reservation systems, etc. (I don't need a list, it's on the
> > commercial vendor's site).
>
> The software you refer to runs on Open Source Lisps; SBCL and CCL.
SBCL is based on CMUCL which was paid for by the US taxpayer.
CCL is based on MCL (and Coral Lisp), which was commercial
and created with the help of commercial companies
or research institutions (Apple, NASA, Clozure, etc.).
Open Source does not mean that there is no commercial
interest.
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