On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:36 -0700, Mark Tarver wrote:
> Having looked at the options, I've decided that the easiest is to run
> Linux from my CD/DVD drive and experiment with Lisp from there. I
> understand this called a 'live installation'. It saves cluttering up
> my disk drive with something that turns out to be naff. Any
> recommendations/experience on live Linuxes? Ease of installation,
> reliability and friendliness are the main criteria. If it includes
> CLisp preinstalled saves me a job of using 'make' which would be nice.
>
> thanks
>
> Mark
i'd say don't bother with anything "not-real"; as in don't use what you
wouldn't or won't use on the actual final server too .. it's pointless
and creates more stuff to think about and deal with
use the real thing, like, say Debian (i'd go for the "Lenny" version now
actually..) or Ubuntu (the "Desktop" version is very similar to the
server in terms of what is available via APT..)
using a live cd/dvd will only complicate things; things you save ..
configuration .. etc. .. don't bother; it will not match a or the server
environment!
..run it under VirtualBox if you don't want a full install! ..
transition of mouse focus between OSes is fully transparent; the
OS-window behaves like a normal application-window in your UI
--
Lars Rune Nøstdal || AJAX/Comet GUI type stuff for Common Lisp
http://nostdal.org/ || http://groups.google.com/group/symbolicweb
Lars Rune Nøstdal wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:36 -0700, Mark Tarver wrote:
>> Having looked at the options, I've decided that the easiest is to run
>> Linux from my CD/DVD drive and experiment with Lisp from there. I
>> understand this called a 'live installation'. It saves cluttering up
>> my disk drive with something that turns out to be naff. Any
>> recommendations/experience on live Linuxes? Ease of installation,
>> reliability and friendliness are the main criteria. If it includes
>> CLisp preinstalled saves me a job of using 'make' which would be nice.
>>
> i'd say don't bother with anything "not-real"; as in don't use what you
> wouldn't or won't use on the actual final server too .. it's pointless
> and creates more stuff to think about and deal with
...
> ..run it under VirtualBox if you don't want a full install! ..
> transition of mouse focus between OSes is fully transparent; the
> OS-window behaves like a normal application-window in your UI
Second the vote for virtualization. And its faster than rebooting to
a live cd or flash disk. Also simplifies copying files between the OSs.
In addition to VirtualBox, I've had reasonable success with coLinux.
And IIRC, the free VMWare player can load disk images created by other
programs.
http://www.colinux.org/
http://www.vmware.com/products/player/
- Daniel
Lars Rune Nøstdal wrote:
> On Wed, 2008-10-22 at 09:36 -0700, Mark Tarver wrote:
>
>>Having looked at the options, I've decided that the easiest is to run
>>Linux from my CD/DVD drive and experiment with Lisp from there. I
>>understand this called a 'live installation'. It saves cluttering up
>>my disk drive with something that turns out to be naff. Any
>>recommendations/experience on live Linuxes? Ease of installation,
>>reliability and friendliness are the main criteria. If it includes
>>CLisp preinstalled saves me a job of using 'make' which would be nice.
>>
>>thanks
>>
>>Mark
>
>
> i'd say don't bother with anything "not-real"; as in don't use what you
> wouldn't or won't use on the actual final server too .. it's pointless
> and creates more stuff to think about and deal with
>
> use the real thing, like, say Debian (i'd go for the "Lenny" version now
> actually..)
...I was wondering when someone would mention Knoppix. LispNYC used to
have a rockin and boppin live CD.
> or Ubuntu (the "Desktop" version is very similar to the
> server in terms of what is available via APT..)
>
> using a live cd/dvd will only complicate things; things you save ..
> configuration .. etc. .. don't bother; it will not match a or the server
> environment!
Lamer Kenny found a web page with Knoppix install directions and pulled
it off in a couple of hours, fwiw.
kzp