On Oct 8, 4:37 pm, ·······@gmail.com" <······@gmail.com> wrote:
> Xah wrote:
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> • Why You should Not Use The Jargon Lisp1 and Lisp2http://xahlee.org/emacs/lisp1_vs_lisp2.html
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> Kent wrote:
> > This suggestion is not a constructive one because it offers no useful
> > substitution.
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> I did suggest a alternative in my essay.
> I would say Common Lisp's model or Scheme Lisp's model, or, use a
> communicative term like multi-meaning-space and single-meaning-space.
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> Lispers often call the associated concept name space. But in fact it's
> not a naming space. Name space in computer langs is in general applied
> to package names, and in general any particular scope of variables or
> functions's names. In the case of lisp, lisp's symbols. What the lisp1
> and lisp2 refers to, are rather peculiar to lisps, and it is more
> proper to call them meaning-space.
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> On Sep 2, 2:42 pm, Kent M Pitman <······@nhplace.com> wrote:
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> > [ comp.lang.lisp only;http://www.nhplace.com/kent/PFAQ/cross-posting.html]
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> > ·······@gmail.com" <······@gmail.com> writes:
> > > Please try to avoid the jargons lisp1 and lisp2.
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> > This suggestion is not a constructive one because it offers no useful
> > substitution. Indeed, these terms were never suggested as general
> > purpose, but have taken on a life of their own primarily because there
> > is no better term that is easily pronounceable. "having a single
> > namespace" or "having a particular finite number of namespaces" is
> > just not pithy.
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> > > * The jargon is opaque. The words do not convey its meaning.
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> > I somewhat agree, but human language tends to be a living thing,
> > adapting as needed.
>
> Indeed. However, that is not to say that we should let the natural
> tendency of bad naming to thrive in all contexts. In other words, the
> fact that terminologies gets coined in a rather flexible way, but this
> does not imply all terminologies are created equal, or that we should
> embrace terminologies without regards to quality.
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> the above are written a month ago. Was going to write a full reply but
> never finished. Here it is for what's worth.
>
> Xah
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> ☄
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