From: Xah Lee
Subject: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <0ce02b6e-035f-40e2-82e1-953228138c87@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
it appears to me, that comp.lang.lisp is dying, and i think
comp.lang.* newsgroup is dying in general. (perhaps all newsgroups)

my experience in the last couple of years, i noticed fewer posts, and
much more spams, especially this year.

i think at least 25% of posts to comp.lang.lisp are spams this year.

Coupled with that info, you can check post stat here:

http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/about

it does seem decreasing. You can check other groups in the similar
way.

-----------------

it's funny that in comp.lang.perl.misc, half of the post these days
are Perl FAQs. lol. The Perl community's fanatical fuckhead priests
are practical and loud bunch, thinking they are mavericks and messiahs
among the programing geekers. They post their FAQ frequently, but not
only that, they cut it into 1 Question/Answer format and post several
of it per day. They've been doing that for years. (but even so, Perl's
popularity has been decreasing long-term in the past decade ...
(because, if good people keeps communication and info going, no amount
of marketing and fucking lies will perpetually sell yourself. The
other reason for decreasing perl use is that actually lots and lots
languages are coming into the scene))

(see also:
• Pathetically Elational Regex Language
  http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/perlr.html

• Proliferation of Computing Languages
  http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/new_langs.html
)

If comp.lang.lisp's fanatical lisp fuckheads actually cared about lisp
and lisp's health, and less of their motherfucking above-it mentality,
they'd do that (posting factualy Frequently asked Q/A on a daily
basis) and it would actually help lisp. (but the lisp regular
fuckhead's concern in comp.lang.lisp is typically: “i'm above you” and
“everything lisp is superior”. Fuck lispers, in particular, fuck
Common Lispers and fuck Scheme lispers. They are perhaps the most
worthless snob collective among functional programing communities.)

(See:
• Fundamental Problems of Lisp
  http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/lisp_problems.html
)

-----------------

in 2006 i did a survey of comp.lang.* posting frequency trend:

• Computer Language Popularity Trend
  http://xahlee.org/lang_traf/index.html

Perhaps it's time to do it again?

all the code to do it is already there... (the python code grab the
info from google, and Mathematica generate the graph)
perhaps someone could take 10 min to run the code and post a report?
(all you need to do is create the graph part, using perhaps gnuplot or
similar, since you probably don't have Mathematica)

the problem with posting stat now is that massive number of spam posts
in the last few years. Fuck the motherfucking, irresponsible,
unthinking, social science illiterate tech geekers. It is their deeds
and behaviors that resulted this.

• Tech Geekers versus Spammers
  http://xahlee.org/UnixResource_dir/writ/tech_geekers_vs_spammers.html

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄

From: J�rgen Exner
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <ltjli4l7oh99qqvhd9knn1ml8c7ng95l4v@4ax.com>
Xah Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote:
[whatever]

Changed your ID again to escape the kill files?
Back you go to where you belong.


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From: Slobodan Blazeski
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
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From: Don Geddis
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <87vdudhxg3.fsf@geddis.org>
Xah Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote on Mon, 24 Nov 2008:
> i think at least 25% of posts to comp.lang.lisp are spams this year.

I agree with you completely.

For example, there's this guy, Xah Lee, who posts all the time to c.l.l, and
pretty much every one of his posts is spam.  He probably makes that 25%
number all by himself.

Do you have any advice for how we can get rid of that guy?
_______________________________________________________________________________
Don Geddis                  http://don.geddis.org/               ···@geddis.org
Mistakes are often the stepping stones to utter failure.
From: Xah Lee
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <87249c4e-bf90-4aaa-a2ae-7feae3157bdf@a29g2000pra.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 24, 8:59 am, Don Geddis <····@geddis.org> wrote:
> Xah Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote on Mon, 24 Nov 2008:
>
> > i think at least 25% of posts to comp.lang.lisp are spams this year.
>
> I agree with you completely.
>
> For example, there's this guy, Xah Lee, who posts all the time to c.l.l, and
> pretty much every one of his posts is spam.  He probably makes that 25%
> number all by himself.
>
> Do you have any advice for how we can get rid of that guy?

Guys, look at this Don moron.

In the current week, we see in comp.lang.lisp these posts:

•	FAST & EASY - ::: INSURANCE ::: allstate insurance
• Go to www.prettyreplica.com buy replica watches will get discount
this Christmas!
• Auto Insurance Center - Auto Insurance Quote
• okcupid tests - Free Online Dating
• okcupid login - Free Online Dating
• www okcupid com - Free Online Dating
• african american singles - Free Online Dating
• www myukdate com - Free Online Dating
• plentyoffish uk - Free Online Dating
• Chase credit cards HERE ALL
• COMPUTER FOR PEOPLE USE
• Juhla-Asu ei vastaa asujensa vioista ellei asiakas niitä ennen
vuokrtaamista huomaa
• HELP DESK
• STOCK TRADE

Check it out google group yourself: http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/

this Don moron have any sense of responsibility? Is he pretenting he
doesn't understand what's spam? Does he care?

This post is posted to: comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme,
comp.lang.functional, comp.lang.perl.misc .

  Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/

☄
From: smallpond
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <be7f42d9-bcd7-474d-980b-214b304c8484@w35g2000yqm.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 24, 2:03 pm, Xah Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote:

> this Don moron have any sense of responsibility? Is he pretenting he
> doesn't understand what's spam? Does he care?
>
> This post is posted to: comp.lang.lisp, comp.lang.scheme,
> comp.lang.functional, comp.lang.perl.misc .
>

Have you no sense of irony?
From: Jon Harrop
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <MJWdnchcTfKykrbUnZ2dnUVZ8t7inZ2d@posted.plusnet>
Xah Lee wrote:
> On Nov 24, 8:59 am, Don Geddis <····@geddis.org> wrote:
>> Xah Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote on Mon, 24 Nov 2008:
>> > i think at least 25% of posts to comp.lang.lisp are spams this year.
>>
>> I agree with you completely.
>>
>> For example, there's this guy, Xah Lee, who posts all the time to c.l.l,
>> and
>> pretty much every one of his posts is spam.  He probably makes that 25%
>> number all by himself.
>>
>> Do you have any advice for how we can get rid of that guy?
> 
> Guys, look at this Don moron.
> 
> In the current week, we see in comp.lang.lisp these posts:
> ...

I wasn't going to reply but I confess that this is pretty funny. The Lisp
community enjoy measuring their success by the amount of spam they receive
in comp.lang.lisp compared to comp.lang.functional (and neglecting fa.caml
and fa.haskell).

I particularly like the way your respondant's website cites as having been
unemployed for six years and gives a list of projects he started but never
finished. :-)

-- 
Dr Jon D Harrop, Flying Frog Consultancy Ltd.
http://www.ffconsultancy.com/?u
From: Kaz Kylheku
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <20081124124946.29@gmail.com>
On 2008-11-24, Jon Harrop <···@ffconsultancy.com> wrote:
> I wasn't going to reply but I confess that this is pretty funny. The Lisp
> community enjoy measuring their success by the amount of spam they receive
> in comp.lang.lisp compared to comp.lang.functional (and neglecting fa.caml
> and fa.haskell).

Do not ascribe to others a preoccupation that is entirely yours.
From: Tad J McClellan
Subject: Re: comp.lang.* newsgroups seems dying
Date: 
Message-ID: <slrngirfp6.g2l.tadmc@tadmc30.sbcglobal.net>
["Followup-To:" header set to comp.lang.perl.misc.]

Kaz Kylheku <········@gmail.com> wrote:
> On 2008-11-26, brian d foy <···········@gmail.com> wrote:
>> In article
>><····································@e1g2000pra.googlegroups.com>, Xah
>> Lee <······@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> it's funny that in comp.lang.perl.misc, half of the post these days
>>> are Perl FAQs. lol. The Perl community's fanatical fuckhead priests
>>> are practical and loud bunch, thinking they are mavericks and messiahs
>>> among the programing geekers. They post their FAQ frequently, but not
>>> only that, they cut it into 1 Question/Answer format and post several
>>> of it per day. They've been doing that for years. 
>>
>> Actually, there's only one fuckhead posting the FAQ, and that's me. :)
>>
>> It's once every four hours (so only six a day). They always come from
>
> ``Only'' six FAQ posts per day? You're a loonie. 


Thank you for defending brian's work.

("loonie" is less prejudicial than "fuckhead", right?)


-- 
Tad McClellan
email: perl -le "print scalar reverse qq/moc.noitatibaher\100cmdat/"