On Jul 5, 1:39 pm, Francogrex <······@grex.org> wrote:
> Hi, I'm looking for a good LISP editor (for windows), I use CLISP on
> windows XP. I know this has been discussed before but all I found were
> references to Emacs. In all honesty I tried Emacs and I hate it, it's
> bulky and "unix like", I really do not want to use it to run common
> lisp from it. I am currently using Able which has a tclk editor and
> runs clisp which is integrated, it's good but limiting in the sense
> that I have to accept the version of clisp the developer has put into
> it and if there's a new clisp version I can't integrate it (or if i
> want to use it with other lisp implementations, I can't). Are there
> any other good free and light editors which let me run common lisp
> from it (not just a code editor and then do the silly load...command!)?
You should give emacs another try.
First thing, is to disregard the fucking morons the comp.lang.lisp
regulars or emacs long-time users have to say about emacs. It is they,
fuck heads, that made emacs extremely hard to use and advocating ill-
conceived advices and practices that has become a norm.
Emacs is stuck in 1980's interface and terminologies. Its mode of
operation is many respects are very inefficient and painful. However,
it has very powerful redeeming qualities. Namely, the embedded lisp
language system, and customizability.
If you are on a Mac, you could try Aquamacs, which is emacs with
completely revamped interface so that it looks and feels like most
modern applications on OS X. Aquamacs is quite popular. Its problem is
that it's limited on a platform only less ~4% of market share.
You, on Windows, might try
http://www.ourcomments.org/Emacs/EmacsW32.html
I can't say much about it since i don't have Windows now and have not
tried it.
Its spirit is similar to Aquamacs, by making emacs conform to modern
user interface, for Windows.
In anycase, the emacs system allows youself to make quite flexible
changes. You might think of it as a text editor engine, where you can
build your own editor on top of it to the way you like.
For example, for me, i've spent several months in 2007 and designed a
ergonomic keyboard shortcuts that radically changed emacs keybindings
( http://xahlee.org/emacs/ergonomic_emacs_keybinding.html ).
The design is based on my 18 or so years of experience of using the
Dvorak keyboard layout and many macros ond key-remapping software on
Mac/Unix/Windows and my absurd interest in efficiency and fascination
with input devices.
Again, the one critical quality about emacs is its embedded lisp
language. If you are a programer, which you are, and especially if you
program in lisp, then emacs will be highly advantageous to you in the
long term, if you could just bear with its bulk of outdated user
interface and terminologies for several months.
Perhaps in risking of making it look like i'm simply trying to peddle
my writings, but i have written a tutorial on emacs and emacs lisp.
Please have a gander, and you can get some idea of emacs power, or at
least how i use it.
http://xahlee.org/emacs/emacs.html
http://xahlee.org/emacs/elisp.html
Xah
∑ http://xahlee.org/
☄
> You, on Windows, might try
> http://www.ourcomments.org/Emacs/EmacsW32.html
> I can't say much about it since i don't have Windows now and have not
> tried it.
> Its spirit is similar to Aquamacs, by making emacs conform to modern
> user interface, for Windows.
haven't tried it either, but i'm using XEmacs, and it works very
fine on Windows. (well, it works quite fine on Linux too, so
i'm using it both here and there).