From: ········@mindspring.com
Subject: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <cJGdncwRp4reZjTanZ2dnUVZ_uCinZ2d@comcast.com>
I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?

Thanks.

From: Kaz Kylheku
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <63f0672c-b833-4bbd-87ae-de1a948612cd@f47g2000hsd.googlegroups.com>
On Feb 6, 10:24 am, ········@mindspring.com wrote:
> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?

Roughly speaking, Newlisp is to Lisp what Javascript is to Java.
From: ···@telent.net
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <47aa44be$0$13932$fa0fcedb@news.zen.co.uk>
Kaz Kylheku wrote:
> On Feb 6, 10:24 am, ········@mindspring.com wrote:
>> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
>> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?
> 
> Roughly speaking, Newlisp is to Lisp what Javascript is to Java.

More interactive, more dynamic, more fun, and 1000% less 
boilerplate-induced frustration?

I've never done any Newlisp, but I think now I might have to take a look 
at it ...


-dan
From: Joost Diepenmaat
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <87zludhcge.fsf@zeekat.nl>
···@telent.net writes:

> Kaz Kylheku wrote:
>> On Feb 6, 10:24 am, ········@mindspring.com wrote:
>>> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
>>> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?
>>
>> Roughly speaking, Newlisp is to Lisp what Javascript is to Java.
>
> More interactive, more dynamic, more fun, and 1000% less
> boilerplate-induced frustration?

Don't forget slow and with frustrating scoping rules :) But I get what
you mean.

> I've never done any Newlisp, but I think now I might have to take a
> look at it ...

Maybe I should too.

Joost.
From: Raymond Toy (RT/EUS)
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <sxdr6fp4vvn.fsf@rtp.ericsson.se>
>>>>> "dfeustel" == dfeustel  <········@mindspring.com> writes:

    dfeustel> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
    dfeustel> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?

Is Newlisp a Common Lisp?  If not, then maxima probably doesn't run.
Even if it were, you will probably need to do some porting.

Ray
From: Rainer Joswig
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <joswig-A803EA.19282406022008@news-europe.giganews.com>
In article <································@comcast.com>,
 ········@mindspring.com wrote:

> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?
> 
> Thanks.

Newlisp is no Common Lisp. Maxima is written in Common Lisp.
So Maxima does not work with Newlisp.

From the Maxima FAQ:

 Clisp, CMUCL, Scieneer Common Lisp (SCL), GCL (ANSI-enabled only)
 and SBCL can compile and execute Maxima.

 Allegro Common Lisp and OpenMCL might also work,
 but have not been fully tested.
From: YANSWBVCG
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <99OdnW2KRc3AYjTanZ2dnUVZ_sSlnZ2d@comcast.com>
Rainer Joswig <······@lisp.de> wrote:
> In article <································@comcast.com>,
> ········@mindspring.com wrote:
> 
>> I just installed Newlisp on 64-bit AMD OpenBSD 4.2 without any problems
>> and I'm wondering if Maxima works with Newlisp. Has anyone tried that?
>> 
>> Thanks.
> 
> Newlisp is no Common Lisp. Maxima is written in Common Lisp.
> So Maxima does not work with Newlisp.
> 
> From the Maxima FAQ:
> 
> Clisp, CMUCL, Scieneer Common Lisp (SCL), GCL (ANSI-enabled only)
> and SBCL can compile and execute Maxima.
> 
> Allegro Common Lisp and OpenMCL might also work,
> but have not been fully tested.

Thanks,

I'm running 64-bit AMD OpenBSD, and I have not succeeded in getting
installed any version of lisp that works with Maxima. It appears
that what's broken (for at least a year) is the OpenBSD Loader which
aborts while attempting to load lisp. I am very slowly creeping
toward switching to Linux to get software that doesn't work with or is
unavailable on 64-bit OpenBSD. NewLisp looks very nice though.
From: Andrew Reilly
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <60urchF1rvom8U1@mid.individual.net>
On Wed, 06 Feb 2008 12:41:33 -0600, YANSWBVCG wrote:

> I'm running 64-bit AMD OpenBSD, and I have not succeeded in getting
> installed any version of lisp that works with Maxima. It appears that
> what's broken (for at least a year) is the OpenBSD Loader which aborts
> while attempting to load lisp. I am very slowly creeping toward
> switching to Linux to get software that doesn't work with or is
> unavailable on 64-bit OpenBSD. NewLisp looks very nice though.

Not that I'd want to dissuade you from using Linux, but if you want to 
stay with something a little more familiar and BSD-ish, then I can report 
that I've had no problems with SBCL on FreeBSD-7-amd64.  I vaguely 
remember there being an issue with CLISP, but looking at the ports 
makefile now, it only seems to have a problem with 8, which is bleeding-
edge.  I believe that there are FreeBSD CMUCL users here, too.

-- 
Andrew
From: Rob Warnock
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <GsadnRwBPZZFcDfanZ2dnUVZ_oCvnZ2d@speakeasy.net>
Andrew Reilly  <···············@areilly.bpc-users.org> wrote:
+---------------
| Not that I'd want to dissuade you from using Linux, but if you want to 
| stay with something a little more familiar and BSD-ish, then I can report 
| that I've had no problems with SBCL on FreeBSD-7-amd64.  I vaguely 
| remember there being an issue with CLISP, but looking at the ports 
| makefile now, it only seems to have a problem with 8, which is bleeding-
| edge.  I believe that there are FreeBSD CMUCL users here, too.
+---------------

I am a happy user of CMUCL on Linux 2.4.21, 2.6.7, 2,6.20 [all 64-bit],
and FreeBSD 4.6 [32-bit], 4.10 [32-bit], and 6.2 [64-bit]. CMUCL itself
is only a 32-bit binary on those platforms at the moment[1], but it runs
just fine on the above 64-bit platforms.


-Rob

[1] Though I'm told some work is being done to get it to run "native" 64-bit.

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From: Thomas M. Hermann
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <b-ednao-6uBaqDbanZ2dnUVZ_jednZ2d@centurytel.net>
Andrew Reilly wrote:
> Not that I'd want to dissuade you from using Linux, but if you want to 
> stay with something a little more familiar and BSD-ish, then I can report 
> that I've had no problems with SBCL on FreeBSD-7-amd64.

I've run into a problem with sb-unix:unix-stat in SBCL built from the 
port on FreeBSD-7-amd64 that creates issues with ASDF, for example. I 
brought it to the attention of an SBCL developer on #lisp. We've done a 
little debugging and the developer has a handle on the problem and 
generally has an approach for a fix.

> I vaguely remember there being an issue with CLISP, but looking at the ports 
> makefile now, it only seems to have a problem with 8, which is bleeding-
> edge.  I believe that there are FreeBSD CMUCL users here, too.

You have 4 choices for maxima on FreeBSD7-amd64: CLISP, CMUCL, GCL and 
SBCL. CMUCL on FreeBSD7-amd64 is 19c, 32-bit and requires compat4x. I 
had problems getting maxima to build with CMUCL. Maxima seemed to build 
fine with CLISP and SBCL. I have no experience with GCL. My 
recommendation for FreeBSD7-amd64 would be to use either CLISP or SBCL. 
I've built maxima with both and xmaxima executes, but I've not done any 
testing beyond that. The caveat with SBCL, built from the port(1.0.11), 
is that you may run into a problem at some point if it relies on file 
time information due to the sb-unix:unix-stat issue.



Good Luck,

Tom H.
From: Thomas M. Hermann
Subject: Re: Does Maxima work with NewLisp?
Date: 
Message-ID: <OeSdnTu2CtN6oTbanZ2dnUVZ_vPinZ2d@centurytel.net>
Thomas M. Hermann wrote:
> I've run into a problem with sb-unix:unix-stat in SBCL built from the 
> port on FreeBSD-7-amd64 that creates issues with ASDF, for example. I 
> brought it to the attention of an SBCL developer on #lisp. We've done a 
> little debugging and the developer has a handle on the problem and 
> generally has an approach for a fix.

I just compiled the latest version from cvs, 1.0.14.22 and 
sb-unix:unix-stat works correctly on FreeBSD7-amd64 now.