From: John Thingstad
Subject: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <op.t1r4mqynut4oq5@pandora.alfanett.no>
Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter and  
give his vote.
We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of  
personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't know.  
Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a  
explanation.

I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment but  
would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  
www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks bugs  
in various app's.) So I don't have time right now.

Anyone game?

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John Thingstad

From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <op.t1r4y1faut4oq5@pandora.alfanett.no>
P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:16 +0100, skrev John Thingstad  
<·······@online.no>:

> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter and  
> give his vote.
> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of  
> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't  
> know. Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a  
> explanation.
>
> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment  
> but would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  
> www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks bugs  
> in various app's.) So I don't have time right now.
>
> Anyone game?
>

Apropos quality, sorry about the missing r in library..
From: Ken
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <AzC_i.6$ID.0@newsfe08.lga>
John Thingstad wrote:
> P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:16 +0100, skrev John Thingstad 
> <·······@online.no>:
> 
>> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
>> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter 
>> and give his vote.
>> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of 
>> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't 
>> know. Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a 
>> explanation.
>>
>> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment 
>> but would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a 
>> www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks 
>> bugs in various app's.)

When I saw the quick follow-up I was hoping it would say OK sorry had my 
coffee now dumb idea sorry for the noise cuz I am thinking this project 
would be a great way to tap all that overabundant energy Lispniks are 
just pouring into open source libs. This community is lucky to get out 
of bed in the morning and continues to pride itself on projects with 
lifespans that make the Zimbabwan river gnat look like a sea turtle and 
you...

> So I don't have time right now.

Oh, OK, you beat me to it.

>>
>> Anyone game?

You forgot to say if the line forms to the left or to the right. Also, 
is this something Gavino could do in bash?

hth,kzo
From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <op.t1sdewmuut4oq5@pandora.alfanett.no>
P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:17:21 +0100, skrev Ken  
<·················@optonline.net>:

> John Thingstad wrote:
>> P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:16 +0100, skrev John Thingstad  
>> <·······@online.no>:
>>
>>> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
>>> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter  
>>> and give his vote.
>>> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of  
>>> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't  
>>> know. Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a  
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment  
>>> but would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  
>>> www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks  
>>> bugs in various app's.)
>
> When I saw the quick follow-up I was hoping it would say OK sorry had my  
> coffee now dumb idea sorry for the noise cuz I am thinking this project  
> would be a great way to tap all that overabundant energy Lispniks are  
> just pouring into open source libs. This community is lucky to get out  
> of bed in the morning and continues to pride itself on projects with  
> lifespans that make the Zimbabwan river gnat look like a sea turtle and  
> you...
>
>> So I don't have time right now.
>
> Oh, OK, you beat me to it.
>
>>>
>>> Anyone game?
>
> You forgot to say if the line forms to the left or to the right. Also,  
> is this something Gavino could do in bash?
>
> hth,kzo
>


lol

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John Thingstad
From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <op.t1sdtiaxut4oq5@pandora.alfanett.no>
P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 14:17:21 +0100, skrev Ken  
<·················@optonline.net>:

> John Thingstad wrote:
>> P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:16 +0100, skrev John Thingstad  
>> <·······@online.no>:
>>
>>> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
>>> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter  
>>> and give his vote.
>>> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of  
>>> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't  
>>> know. Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a  
>>> explanation.
>>>
>>> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment  
>>> but would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  
>>> www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks  
>>> bugs in various app's.)
>
> When I saw the quick follow-up I was hoping it would say OK sorry had my  
> coffee now dumb idea sorry for the noise cuz I am thinking this project  
> would be a great way to tap all that overabundant energy Lispniks are  
> just pouring into open source libs. This community is lucky to get out  
> of bed in the morning and continues to pride itself on projects with  
> lifespans that make the Zimbabwan river gnat look like a sea turtle and  
> you...
>
>> So I don't have time right now.
>
> Oh, OK, you beat me to it.
>
>>>
>>> Anyone game?
>
> You forgot to say if the line forms to the left or to the right. Also,  
> is this something Gavino could do in bash?
>
> hth,kzo
>

I'll finish faster than you can say 'Theory Y algebra'..
(What 4 years.. oh!)

--------------
John Thingstad
From: Slobodan Blazeski
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <1195062098.186011.190230@v65g2000hsc.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 14, 3:24 am, "John Thingstad" <·······@online.no> wrote:
> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter and
> give his vote.
> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of
> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't know.
> Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a
> explanation.
>
> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment but
> would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  www.common-lisp.netfinds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks bugs
> in various app's.) So I don't have time right now.
>
> Anyone game?
>
> --------------
> John Thingstad

No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code. So If you could
implement them in sbcl  or openmcl, I would quickly restore my level
of smugness and do it ASAP.

Slobodan
From: Alex Mizrahi
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <473b5ad1$0$90268$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
 SB> No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
 SB> After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
 SB> lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code.

you find arnesi ones not blown enough? 
From: Slobodan Blazeski
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <1195074187.883762.322960@o80g2000hse.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 14, 12:30 pm, "Alex Mizrahi" <········@users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:
>  SB> No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
>  SB> After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
>  SB> lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code.
>
> you find arnesi ones not blown enough?

Arnesi (interpreted) and cl-cont (compiled ) offer only delimited
continuations.

Slobodan
From: Alex Mizrahi
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <473b6563$0$90271$14726298@news.sunsite.dk>
SB>>> No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
 SB>>> After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
 SB>>> lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code.
 ??>>
 ??>> you find arnesi ones not blown enough?

 SB> Arnesi (interpreted) and cl-cont (compiled ) offer only delimited
 SB> continuations.

and that's not enought for practical purposes? 
From: Slobodan Blazeski
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <1195076874.655000.19480@22g2000hsm.googlegroups.com>
On Nov 14, 1:15 pm, "Alex Mizrahi" <········@users.sourceforge.net>
wrote:
> SB>>> No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
>  SB>>> After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
>  SB>>> lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code.
>  ??>>
>  ??>> you find arnesi ones not blown enough?
>
>  SB> Arnesi (interpreted) and cl-cont (compiled ) offer only delimited
>  SB> continuations.
>
> and that's not enought for practical purposes?

They will do, but good enough is not the same as great.

Slobodan
From: Pascal Costanza
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <5q19m3Ftnh1mU1@mid.individual.net>
Slobodan Blazeski wrote:
> On Nov 14, 1:15 pm, "Alex Mizrahi" <········@users.sourceforge.net>
> wrote:
>> SB>>> No problem I would do it for you. I just ask for a *little* favor.
>>  SB>>> After learning scheme full blown continuations, I got attack on my
>>  SB>>> lisp-have-them-all attitude, and refuse to code.
>>  ??>>
>>  ??>> you find arnesi ones not blown enough?
>>
>>  SB> Arnesi (interpreted) and cl-cont (compiled ) offer only delimited
>>  SB> continuations.
>>
>> and that's not enought for practical purposes?
> 
> They will do, but good enough is not the same as great.

Delimited continuations are more general than undelimited ones. It's 
easy to get undelimited ones with delimited continuations: You just wrap 
your 'main' function in a delimiter (with-call/cc, or the equivalent). 
The other way around is not so trivial.


Pascal

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From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Libray quality reference board
Date: 
Message-ID: <op.t1sqz0lrut4oq5@pandora.alfanett.no>
P� Wed, 14 Nov 2007 12:24:16 +0100, skrev John Thingstad  
<·······@online.no>:

> Wouldn't it be great if we had some idea of what library was best.
> I would suggest a voting system for which Lisp developer could enter and  
> give his vote.
> We would just have a list of lib's, a set of search funtions, a set of  
> personally used libs to limit the useless parsing of lib's you don't  
> know. Then give a vote based on user experience. Perhaps followed by a  
> explanation.
>
> I am working on a BugTrack system sort of like  BugZilla at the moment  
> but would like to hear comments about this scheme. (I hope someone a  
> www.common-lisp.net finds it worthwhile to add a system that tracks bugs  
> in various app's.) So I don't have time right now.
>
> Anyone game?
>

I guess I will attack it myself after I finished the BugTrack system  
(january/february 2008 I guess)