From: Mark Tarver
Subject: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <1178741808.948728.197290@o5g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
Qi 7.3 has been successfuly run under SBCL for Windows.  The system is
available from the home site www.lambdassociates.org.

The new release incorporates some minor patches to 7.2 and an
enhancement to the performance of the object code (Lisp) generated.

Qi now runs under 3 implementations of CL; CLisp, CMUCL and SBCL under
both Windows and Linux.

Thanks to Yaroslav Kavenchuk for his significant contribution to the
port of Qi to SBCL.  The next release should be the Allegro port.


Mark

From: Raffael Cavallaro
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <2007050921580475249-raffaelcavallaro@pasdespamsilvousplaitmaccom>
On 2007-05-09 16:16:49 -0400, Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> said:

> and SBCL under
> both Windows and Linux.

Just FYI, I've installed it under sbcl on Mac OS X intel. The test 
suite seems to have some problem which I haven't diagnosed, but several 
of the example programs seem to run just fine.
From: Mark Tarver
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <1178766361.611004.19550@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
On 10 May, 02:58, Raffael Cavallaro <················@pas-d'espam-s'il-
vous-plait-mac.com> wrote:
> On 2007-05-09 16:16:49 -0400, Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> said:
>
> > and SBCL under
> > both Windows and Linux.
>
> Just FYI, I've installed it under sbcl on Mac OS X intel. The test
> suite seems to have some problem which I haven't diagnosed, but several
> of the example programs seem to run just fine.

Ah; as I said to Yaroslav, the test suite was designed as a tool for
*myself* for testing the internals of each new release.   To use it
effectively requires knowing exactly what to type in and what to
expect as a response because parts are interactive.  And it covers a
whole range of tests including all the stuff in FPQi and beyond (e.g.
Qi-Prolog and Qi-YACC which many people have not yet got around to
exploring much).  I never expected people to use this - its the
'engineer's hatch' to the system purely for testing releases.

I think in future I'll comment this suite much more if people want to
run their own tests.

You can send me a script of the problem if you like, and I'll see if
its for real.

Great it seems to run under Mac OS X.

Mark
From: Raffael Cavallaro
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <200705101009238930-raffaelcavallaro@pasdespamsilvousplaitmaccom>
On 2007-05-09 23:06:01 -0400, Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> said:

> You can send me a script of the problem if you like, and I'll see if
> its for real.

Ah, I see now - I expected a set of automated tests - I didn't realize 
at first that the test suite requires user input since there's no 
prompt for it. So the test suite appears to run correctly too.


> 
> Great it seems to run under Mac OS X.

Yes, it does. Congratulations and good luck.
From: Andreas Davour
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <cs9r6ppt92o.fsf@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>
Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> writes:

> Qi 7.3 has been successfuly run under SBCL for Windows.  The system is
> available from the home site www.lambdassociates.org.

...and what is Qi?

/andreas

-- 
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
From: Mark Tarver
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <1178786205.574317.10180@y5g2000hsa.googlegroups.com>
On 10 May, 08:46, Andreas Davour <····@update.uu.se> wrote:
> Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
> > Qi 7.3 has been successfuly run under SBCL for Windows.  The system is
> > available from the home sitewww.lambdassociates.org.
>
> ...and what is Qi?
>
> /andreas
>
> --
> A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
> Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
> A: Top-posting.
> Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
Index page link ....

http://www.lambdassociates.org/aboutqi.htm
From: Andreas Davour
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <cs9ejlmpecw.fsf@Psilocybe.Update.UU.SE>
Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> writes:

> On 10 May, 08:46, Andreas Davour <····@update.uu.se> wrote:
>> Mark Tarver <··········@ukonline.co.uk> writes:
>> > Qi 7.3 has been successfuly run under SBCL for Windows.  The system is
>> > available from the home sitewww.lambdassociates.org.
>>
>> ...and what is Qi?
>
> Index page link ....
>
> http://www.lambdassociates.org/aboutqi.htm

I felt it would have been polite to post a short sentence about it, not
expecting everyone to have a browser handy. Anyway, I wasn't *that*
interested. 

/andreas


-- 
A: Because it fouls the order in which people normally read text.
Q: Why is top-posting such a bad thing?
A: Top-posting.
Q: What is the most annoying thing on usenet and in e-mail?
From: Boris Borcic
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <4649c0b4$1_3@news.bluewin.ch>
Andreas Davour wrote:
> 
> I felt it would have been polite to post a short sentence about it, not
> expecting everyone to have a browser handy.

You have emacs on your handy ?
From: David Golden
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <_ll2i.19645$j7.373635@news.indigo.ie>
Boris Borcic wrote:

> Andreas Davour wrote:
>> 
>> I felt it would have been polite to post a short sentence about it,
>> not expecting everyone to have a browser handy.
> 
> You have emacs on your handy ?

Not quite sure whether Boris was joking here or honestly
misunderstanding:

"Handy" is slang for mobile telephone in certain non-english-speaking
countries like germany (native british english speakers would
say "mobile" or perhaps just "phone" as the default assumption would 
often be a mobile phone these days, american english often use "cell"). 

The english idiom "to have something handy" means to have it "to hand",
that is to say "available nearby, ready for use".

FWIW, full-blown gnu emacs 20 was ported to ms-wince, so likely would
run on various PDA/phones, though not necessarily comfortably:
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki?id=Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs
From: Boris Borcic
Subject: Re: Announce: Qi 7.3 under SBCL is available
Date: 
Message-ID: <464ae520$1_1@news.bluewin.ch>
David Golden wrote:
> Boris Borcic wrote:
> 
>> Andreas Davour wrote:
>>> I felt it would have been polite to post a short sentence about it,
>>> not expecting everyone to have a browser handy.
>> You have emacs on your handy ?
> 
> Not quite sure whether Boris was joking here or honestly
> misunderstanding:
> 
> "Handy" is slang for mobile telephone in certain non-english-speaking
> countries like germany (native british english speakers would
> say "mobile" or perhaps just "phone" as the default assumption would 
> often be a mobile phone these days, american english often use "cell"). 
> 
> The english idiom "to have something handy" means to have it "to hand",
> that is to say "available nearby, ready for use".
> 
> FWIW, full-blown gnu emacs 20 was ported to ms-wince, so likely would
> run on various PDA/phones, though not necessarily comfortably:
> http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki?id=Emacs_and_EmacsWikiMode_on_PDAs
> 

Thanks for explaining.

Point was, I found Andreas's complaint a bit excessive, and first meant to ask 
him whether he was alluding to reading comp.lang.lisp with a phone...

...then stumbled on the choice of a universal name for "cellphone" and thus 
noted that Andreas ended his sentence with a handy "handy"

- while being endowed with a german-sounding first name (so that I took the 
occurrence of "handy" as confirming that indeed he had a phone in mind... if not 
in hand)

last, emacs is Andreas's user-agent according to the headers of his post.

Regards, Boris