From: ·················@gmail.com
Subject: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
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Is it ever possible? I had a look at the SBCL`s source and revealed
that it`s written in extremly non-portable manner. Am I right?
Just can`t take pleasure of free Common Lisp due to some memory or
multithreading troubles...

From: Zach Beane
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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·················@gmail.com writes:

> Is it ever possible? I had a look at the SBCL`s source and revealed
> that it`s written in extremly non-portable manner. Am I right?
> Just can`t take pleasure of free Common Lisp due to some memory or
> multithreading troubles...

SBCL on Windows does not use Cygwin.

Zach
From: ·················@gmail.com
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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Sorry. I`m too reprehensible. But my SBCL doesn`t work on

> SBCL on Windows does not use Cygwin.
AFAIK, no, it does. "SBCL can be built on Windows using either MinGW/
MSYS or Cygwin. "In either case the resulting binary is a non-Cygwin
binary (ie. does not depend on cygwin.dll...)"
http://sbcl-internals.cliki.net/Build%20on%20Windows
It requires Cygwin for building.

> There is a Windows version of SBCL.
Yes, but it`s not working due to weird memory problem.
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/browse_frm/thread/b7fcbc5518075bb2/b863d903427144ed#b863d903427144ed
From: Alex Mizrahi
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
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(message (Hello ··················@gmail.com)
(you :wrote  :on '(3 Mar 2007 08:08:27 -0800))
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 ??>> SBCL on Windows does not use Cygwin.
 q> AFAIK, no, it does. "SBCL can be built on Windows using either MinGW/
 q> MSYS or Cygwin. "In either case the resulting binary is a non-Cygwin
 q> binary (ie. does not depend on cygwin.dll...)"
 q> http://sbcl-internals.cliki.net/Build%20on%20Windows
 q> It requires Cygwin for building.

so what?? mingw is just a set of GNU tools, it's not an 'emulation layer' or 
whatever.

you'd like to build it with cmd and microsoft toolchain??

)
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From: Jerry van Dijk
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
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On 2007-03-03, ·················@gmail.com <·················@gmail.com> wrote:

> It requires Cygwin for building.

No, it does not. MSYS is enough.

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From: ·················@gmail.com
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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> No, it does not. MSYS is enough.
Ok, thank you. I`m still thinking that it would be nice to build such
a complex application just as easy as I build OpenSceneGraph or
wxWidgets.
From: Lars Rune Nøstdal
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
Message-ID: <45e94877$0$29074$c83e3ef6@nn1-read.tele2.net>
On Sat, 03 Mar 2007 01:08:17 -0800, quasistellarlight wrote:

> Is it ever possible? I had a look at the SBCL`s source and revealed
> that it`s written in extremly non-portable manner. Am I right?
> Just can`t take pleasure of free Common Lisp due to some memory or
> multithreading troubles...

I think it's the other way around; Win32 has extremely poor support for
portability.

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From: Alex Mizrahi
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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(message (Hello 'Lars)
(you :wrote  :on '(03 Mar 2007 10:05:43 GMT))
(

 LRN> I think it's the other way around; Win32 has extremely poor support
 LRN> for portability.

Windows NT certified as fully POSIX (Portable Operating System 
Interface)-compliant.

while Linux and *BSD are known to be 'mostly-compliant', but are not 
certified.
see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/POSIX

)
(With-best-regards '(Alex Mizrahi) :aka 'killer_storm)
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From: Frank Buss
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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Alex Mizrahi wrote:

> Windows NT certified as fully POSIX (Portable Operating System 
> Interface)-compliant.

But did you read the article, which was cited on wikipedia?

http://www.gcn.com/print/14_23/31557-1.html

Sounds like lots of problems, if you want to port a Unix application. And
for most Windows versions, like XP, you'll need the 217 MB "Windows
Services for UNIX" installation (but looks like you can download it for
free).

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From: Raymond Wiker
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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·················@gmail.com writes:

> Is it ever possible? I had a look at the SBCL`s source and revealed
> that it`s written in extremly non-portable manner. Am I right?
> Just can`t take pleasure of free Common Lisp due to some memory or
> multithreading troubles...

	You got that wrong... SBCL is extremely portable, but Windows
is not a platform for portable code.
From: Timofei Shatrov
Subject: Re: SBCL on win32 without Cygwin?
Date: 
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On 3 Mar 2007 01:08:17 -0800, ·················@gmail.com tried to confuse
everyone with this message:

>Is it ever possible? I had a look at the SBCL`s source and revealed
>that it`s written in extremly non-portable manner. Am I right?
>Just can`t take pleasure of free Common Lisp due to some memory or
>multithreading troubles...
>

There is a Windows version of SBCL. No multithreading yet, unfortunately.

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