1 I saw the webserver huchentoot seems to want to sit behind apache?
araneida seesm to also? Why do they depend on apache?
2 I saw lisp on lines is kinda alpha
3 uncomon web seems cool but also wants to sit behind apache
4 common lisp as a shell is really doible? anyone do this?
5 for large apps is using a rdbms unavoidable?
6 does lisp support or mapping or persisten db conneciton pooling and
cacheing?
gavino wrote:
> 1 I saw the webserver huchentoot seems to want to sit behind apache?
> araneida seesm to also? Why do they depend on apache?
I can't comment on those particular servers, but I can say that Apache
is pretty darn good at handling ssl, serving static content and
delegating dynamic requests to something else. Being a Lisp newbie I'm
more familiar with the Ruby world where Mongrel behind Apache using
mod_proxy_balancer is a very good stack. It's possible the servers you
mention sit behind Apache for similar reasons.
> 2 I saw lisp on lines is kinda alpha
>
> 3 uncomon web seems cool but also wants to sit behind apache
>
> 4 common lisp as a shell is really doible? anyone do this?
>
> 5 for large apps is using a rdbms unavoidable?
Depends more on the nature of the data you want to persist than the size
of the app.
> 6 does lisp support or mapping or persisten db conneciton pooling and
> cacheing?
No idea, but if you spin up a few long running Lisp web servers behind
Apache, connection pooling isn't *as* necessary. At least I've found
that to be the case with Apache/Mongrel.
Brian
On Thu, 01 Mar 2007 17:13:36 -0800, gavino wrote:
> 1 I saw the webserver huchentoot seems to want to sit behind apache?
> araneida seesm to also? Why do they depend on apache?
Hi troll!
Here, the first two sentences from the homepage:
"Hunchentoot is a web server written in Common Lisp and at the same time
a toolkit for building dynamic websites. As a stand-alone web server,
Hunchentoot is capable of HTTP/1.1 chunking (both directions),
persistent connections (keep-alive), and SSL, but it can also sit behind
the popular Apache using Marc Battyani's mod_lisp."
..but by the end of this post you will have forgotten this. Now go throw a
fit already.
> 2 I saw lisp on lines is kinda alpha
I saw your project hasn't even started yet.
> 3 uncomon web seems cool but also wants to sit behind apache
Uh, yeah?
> 5 for large apps is using a rdbms unavoidable?
No?
> 6 does lisp support or mapping or persisten db conneciton pooling and
> cacheing?
Yes?
Next week: same questions, different newsgroup.
Next week: same questions, back here again.
Click this:
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Why? Take a look:
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On 2007-03-02 01:13:36 +0000, "gavino" <·········@gmail.com> said:
> [...]
Haven't all those exact questions been asked in really recent history.
By you, I think?
For the `why does x like to be behind Apache' you might consider why
virtually every serious web application in the world, including all the
Java ones, sits behind an Apache front end.
--tim
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g> 1 I saw the webserver huchentoot seems to want to sit behind apache?
g> araneida seesm to also? Why do they depend on apache?
Apache Tomcat, a web server in Java, is also frequently used 'behind
apache'.
Apache Tomcat will need a thread per active request, if somebody does a
request over slow half-working modem line, data will be transmitted for a
long time. non-Tomcat Apache is supposed to handle that more efficiently.
also i think it's connected with garbage collection..
same for lisp, i think
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