From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <jgrTh.10$D52.0@newsfe12.lga>
http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2007/index

So, is Lisp still dead? How'd it go? Highlights?

Meanwhile, here's a devilishly hard Lisp puzzle: find the females. Hippy 
long-hairs create a gray area, I am thinking three to five.

kzo

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From: Zach Beane
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <m34pnld5t2.fsf@unnamed.xach.com>
Ken Tilton <···@theoryyalgebra.com> writes:

> http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2007/index
> 
> So, is Lisp still dead? How'd it go? Highlights?

I didn't go, but I collected a bunch of links to blog summaries into a
metasummary at http://xach.livejournal.com/114414.html . Should be on
Planet Lisp, too.

Zach
From: Pascal Costanza
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <586u36F2g8v03U1@mid.individual.net>
Ken Tilton wrote:
> http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2007/index
> 
> So, is Lisp still dead? How'd it go? Highlights?

Newsgroups are _soo_ 20th century. ;)

There have been quite a few blog postings since last week. Check out 
Planet Lisp and http://ilc07.blogspot.com/

> Meanwhile, here's a devilishly hard Lisp puzzle: find the females. Hippy 
> long-hairs create a gray area, I am thinking three to five.

During the conference, I counted five.


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From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <bWrTh.12$D52.11@newsfe12.lga>
Pascal Costanza wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
> 
>> http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2007/index
>>
>> So, is Lisp still dead? How'd it go? Highlights?
> 
> 
> Newsgroups are _soo_ 20th century. ;)
> 
> There have been quite a few blog postings since last week. Check out 
> Planet Lisp and http://ilc07.blogspot.com/

Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?

tia,kxo

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"As long as algebra is taught in school,
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"Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra."
    - Fran Lebowitz

"I'm an algebra liar. I figure two good lies make a positive."
    - Tim Allen
From: Pascal Costanza
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <58753tF2e9vs1U1@mid.individual.net>
Ken Tilton wrote:
> 
> 
> Pascal Costanza wrote:
>> Ken Tilton wrote:
>>
>>> http://www.international-lisp-conference.org/2007/index
>>>
>>> So, is Lisp still dead? How'd it go? Highlights?
>>
>>
>> Newsgroups are _soo_ 20th century. ;)
>>
>> There have been quite a few blog postings since last week. Check out 
>> Planet Lisp and http://ilc07.blogspot.com/
> 
> Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?

http://xach.livejournal.com/114414.html


Pascal

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From: Tim Bradshaw
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <1176483258.777779.298000@l77g2000hsb.googlegroups.com>
On Apr 12, 4:06 pm, Ken Tilton <····@theoryyalgebra.com> wrote:

>
> Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?

Can you do magtape?
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <07PTh.2$%n3.0@newsfe12.lga>
Tim Bradshaw wrote:
> On Apr 12, 4:06 pm, Ken Tilton <····@theoryyalgebra.com> wrote:
> 
> 
>>Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?
> 
> 
> Can you do magtape?
> 

<sob> My first commercial product (a copyright violation I am sure, of 
MasterMind) shipped on standard audio cassettes. </sob>

Actually, it was also the first non-homework program I wrote. Apple II 
Integer Basic. Ran in 16k.

Yeah, I must still have a Walkman somewhere, send it along.

kzo

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"Algebra is the metaphysics of arithmetic." - John Ray

"As long as algebra is taught in school,
there will be prayer in school." - Cokie Roberts

"Stand firm in your refusal to remain conscious during algebra."
    - Fran Lebowitz

"I'm an algebra liar. I figure two good lies make a positive."
    - Tim Allen
From: Frank Buss
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <1chqv3i0qt0mt.kdg7rt19qy0h$.dlg@40tude.net>
Ken Tilton wrote:

> Yeah, I must still have a Walkman somewhere, send it along.

And then you can hear the bits of the data? But I think you would plug it
into a sound card and write a FFT in Lisp to demodulate it :-)

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From: Raymond Wiker
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <m2d5271lyg.fsf@rawmbp.lan>
Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:

> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>> Yeah, I must still have a Walkman somewhere, send it along.
>
> And then you can hear the bits of the data? But I think you would plug it
> into a sound card and write a FFT in Lisp to demodulate it :-)

	Oddly enough, somebody has already done that, in Perl, to turn
some tapes with SW for the UK-101 back into bits. I find that quite
impressive, but also slightly worrying :-)
From: GP lisper
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <slrnf2249h.7f3.spambait@phoenix.clouddancer.com>
On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:58:31 +0200, <···@rawmbp.lan> wrote:
> Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
>> Ken Tilton wrote:
>>> Yeah, I must still have a Walkman somewhere, send it along.
>>
>> And then you can hear the bits of the data? But I think you would plug it
>> into a sound card and write a FFT in Lisp to demodulate it :-)
>
> 	Oddly enough, somebody has already done that, in Perl, to turn
> some tapes with SW for the UK-101 back into bits. I find that quite
> impressive, but also slightly worrying :-)


$5 says that "SW" was a computer game.


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From: Raymond Wiker
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <m28xcu22og.fsf@rawmbp.lan>
GP lisper <········@CloudDancer.com> writes:

> On Sat, 14 Apr 2007 08:58:31 +0200, <···@rawmbp.lan> wrote:
>> Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
>>> Ken Tilton wrote:
>>>> Yeah, I must still have a Walkman somewhere, send it along.
>>>
>>> And then you can hear the bits of the data? But I think you would plug it
>>> into a sound card and write a FFT in Lisp to demodulate it :-)
>>
>> 	Oddly enough, somebody has already done that, in Perl, to turn
>> some tapes with SW for the UK-101 back into bits. I find that quite
>> impressive, but also slightly worrying :-)
>
>
> $5 says that "SW" was a computer game.

	I downloaded the decoded files, more out of curiosity than
anything else. There were quite a few games, but also other stuff,
including an assembler and an editor.

	I just (re)discovered another scary thing: it *is* possible to
write useful/interesting software in a few hundred bytes on an 8-bit
processor...
From: Didier Verna
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <muxabxawxtt.fsf@uzeb.lrde.epita.fr>
Raymond Wiker <···@rawmbp.lan> wrote:

> 	I just (re)discovered another scary thing: it *is* possible to
> write useful/interesting software in a few hundred bytes on an 8-bit
> processor...

        I can still remember my first computer when I was young: an
Apple IIe with a 6502 CPU and a 64K RAM. I used to play Astek and Castle
Wolfenstein. Both were on a single floppy disk; they had real time 2D
graphics and sound effect. Pretty amazing when I think about it. And I'm
not even speaking of the complexity of Ultima IV "the quest of the
avatar"...


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From: Harald Hanche-Olsen
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <pco8xcw3rqu.fsf@shuttle.math.ntnu.no>
+ "Tim Bradshaw" <··········@tfeb.org>:

| On Apr 12, 4:06 pm, Ken Tilton <····@theoryyalgebra.com> wrote:
|
|>
|> Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?
|
| Can you do magtape?

And here I thought that real men used toggle switches on the front
panel to enter data.  No, wait, that's just for the boot loader, I
guess.  The rest is of course read in from paper tape.

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From: GP lisper
Subject: Re: Post mortem
Date: 
Message-ID: <slrnf224lm.7f3.spambait@phoenix.clouddancer.com>
On Fri, 13 Apr 2007 23:10:33 +0200, <······@math.ntnu.no> wrote:
> + "Tim Bradshaw" <··········@tfeb.org>:
>
>| On Apr 12, 4:06 pm, Ken Tilton <····@theoryyalgebra.com> wrote:
>|
>|>
>|> Super. Can someone convert those to punch cards and ship me a deck?
>|
>| Can you do magtape?
>
> And here I thought that real men used toggle switches on the front
> panel to enter data.  No, wait, that's just for the boot loader, I
> guess.  The rest is of course read in from paper tape.

The scary part is when the old-timer walks over to those toggle
switches and keys in the entire second-stage loader because its tape
broke.  No notes, and that tape was 5+ years old at the time....


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