Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
>Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
>group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
>all of the software is now in probate. A group of ex-symbolics people
>are working to free the software and get it released. We're hoping for
>something in the summer of 2006.
Matt
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Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
> Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
> http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
> >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
> >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
Who was the sole owner?
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Paolo Amoroso wrote:
> Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
>
> > Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
> > http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
> > >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
> > >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
>
> Who was the sole owner?
The name Andrew Topping has floated around the internet before:
http://www.math.utexas.edu/pipermail/maxima/2002/001200.html
I had not heard anything about his passing away though, if he has.
Anybody have any pointers to any information?
Paolo Amoroso wrote:
> Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
>
>> Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
>> http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
>> >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
>> >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
>
> Who was the sole owner?
I am just guessing, but wouldn't this be David Schmidt? See
http://www.symbolics.com/
Pascal
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In article <··············@individual.net>,
Pascal Costanza <··@p-cos.net> wrote:
> Paolo Amoroso wrote:
> > Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
> >
> >> Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
> >> http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
> >> >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
> >> >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
> >
> > Who was the sole owner?
>
> I am just guessing, but wouldn't this be David Schmidt? See
> http://www.symbolics.com/
>
Guessing does not always help. As you can read on that page,
David was (is?) providing maintenance. He was not the
owner. The owner (Andrew Topping) died earlier this year
after a long heart problem. AFAIK the situation of the rest
of the last Symbolics is still unclear and no buyer has been
found yet.
Rainer Joswig wrote:
> In article <··············@individual.net>,
> Pascal Costanza <··@p-cos.net> wrote:
>
>> Paolo Amoroso wrote:
>>> Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
>>>
>>>> Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
>>>> http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
>>>> >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
>>>> >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
>>> Who was the sole owner?
>> I am just guessing, but wouldn't this be David Schmidt? See
>> http://www.symbolics.com/
>>
>
> Guessing does not always help. As you can read on that page,
> David was (is?) providing maintenance. He was not the
> owner. The owner (Andrew Topping) died earlier this year
> after a long heart problem. AFAIK the situation of the rest
> of the last Symbolics is still unclear and no buyer has been
> found yet.
OK, sorry for this.
Pascal
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Quoth Rainer Joswig <······@lisp.de>:
> In article <··············@individual.net>,
> Pascal Costanza <··@p-cos.net> wrote:
>
>> Paolo Amoroso wrote:
>> > Matthew D Swank <·······································@c.net> writes:
>> >
>> >> Does anyone know what's going on with Symbolics beyond the info on
>> >> http://www.unlambda.com/cadr/cadr_faq.html:
>> >> >Symbolics today is owned by one person and is really just a maintaince
>> >> >group for old lisp machines. The sole owner recently passed away and
>> >
>> > Who was the sole owner?
>>
>> I am just guessing, but wouldn't this be David Schmidt? See
>> http://www.symbolics.com/
>
> Guessing does not always help. As you can read on that page, David
> was (is?) providing maintenance. He was not the owner. The owner
> (Andrew Topping) died earlier this year after a long heart
> problem. AFAIK the situation of the rest of the last Symbolics is
> still unclear and no buyer has been found yet.
Oh, dear. And it's not in good taste to sit around like sharks
circling whatever is left of an unfortunate situation.
It would be nice to see something re-emerge, and unfortunate to see it
all lost. But it is sad to hear of his passing...
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On Mon, 30 Oct 2006 21:40:36 -0500, Christopher Browne wrote:
>>
>> Guessing does not always help. As you can read on that page, David
>> was (is?) providing maintenance. He was not the owner. The owner
>> (Andrew Topping) died earlier this year after a long heart
>> problem. AFAIK the situation of the rest of the last Symbolics is
>> still unclear and no buyer has been found yet.
>
> Oh, dear. And it's not in good taste to sit around like sharks
> circling whatever is left of an unfortunate situation.
>
As notorious as Symbolics is in the Lisp universe, it's natural to have
some curiosity-- it is part of the history of an entire culture.
Hell, it's one the big reasons we still get to enjoy shouting matches
over the GPL, CLIM, microcoded CPU's, etc.
Matt
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explain it to your grandmother." — Albert Einstein.
So we feel we know where the manger is, and need to see what dog is in
there? And we are still waiting for Christmas ...
Lisp machine lisp is just too valuable and valid to be allowed to
thrive. It may not be conspiracy, perhaps fate. It seems the nature
of lisp that the personalities involved in ownership and control are
shady, unilateralist, and overall incompetent - at the same time the
community of lisp users are ineffectual, head in the clouds and
seemingly congenitally averse to delivering real world applications
that human beings (as opposed to programmers) can use effectively. As
a whole a good bunch of clever and conscientious folks, but in a
dream. Of course there are exceptions, but just look at the rich power
of such as OpenGL and then how many lisps embrace it - that would be
too real. Lispms would have, a backend to SemantiCue but that just
cannot be allowed. No, the lispm is a collective conspiracy, DARPA
funded, a toy for the ivory tower, an academic play thing, punctillious
scrimshaw, as lisp is a magent for hair-splitting know-it-alls. And
perhaps useful to put in a rocket nose, or with which to syphon wealth
from pension funds (but you have no "need to know" about such things).
It is a religion, and you are in the congregation, what the Cardinals
get up to behind closed doors will always be madness. You see they are
unaccountable, market forces do not apply, history demonstrates this
repeatedly. And to crown the lunacy, THEY know not what they do.
The lispm exists now to bamboozle imaginative intelligence, frustrate
spirits with aspirations to fly, it is like the serene power of
Vermeer's interiors or the passion of J.S.Bach - it is something
promised but always illusory, a siren to the higher faculties in minds
demeaned by the daily pragmatism of software engineering.
······@gmail.com wrote:
> So we feel we know where the manger is, and need to see what dog is in
> there? And we are still waiting for Christmas ...
Dude, it's a prose poem rant! ;P
mfh