From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: The Ken Tilton CLL fortune file (Summer/Fall 2006)
Date:
Message-ID: <pSiZg.54$Cx2.19@newsfe11.lga>
Madhu wrote:
> Programmers who lock onto a design decision and cling to it in the face of
> contradictory new information -- well, that's almost everyone in my
> experience, so I better not say what I think of them or people will start
> saying bad things about me on c.l.l.
> -- Ken Tilton <·············@newsfe09.lga>
> %
> This reminds me of the NYC cabby who accepted a fare to Chicago. When
> they got there and could not find the friend who was supposed to pay the
> fare he just laughed and said he should have known.
> -- Ken Tilton <··············@fe09.lga>
> %
>
>>Actually, I believe that Aikido, Jazz and Lisp are different appearances
>>of the same thing.
>
> Yes, the Tao. /Everything/ is a different appearance of the tao.
> -- Ken Tilton <················@fe08.lga>
>
> "Ken, I went to the library and read up on Buddhism, and believe me, you
> are no Buddhist."
> -- Kenny's mom. <··············@newsfe12.lga>
> %
> That absolutely terrifies the herd-following, lockstep-marching,
> mainstream-saluting cowards that obediently dash out or online to
> scoop up books on The Latest Thing. They learn and use atrocities like
> Java, C++, XML, and even Python for the security it gives them and
> then sit there slaving away miserably, tediously, joylously paying off
> mortgages and supporting ungrateful teenagers who despise them, only
> to look out the double-sealed thermo-pane windows of their
> central-heated, sound-proofed, dead-bolted, suffocating little nests
> into the howling gale thinking "what do they know that I do not know?"
> when they see us under a lean-to hunched over our laptops to shield
> them from the rain laughing our asses off as we write great code
> between bong hits.... what was the question?
> -- Ken Tilton <···················@newsfe09.lga>
> %
> Shut up! (That last phrase has four or more syllables if pronounced as
> intended.)
> -- Ken Tilton <···············@newsfe11.lga>
> %
> Nonsense. You'll be using it for the GUI, not protein-folding.
> -- Ken Tilton <···············@newsfe08.lga>
> (responding to a comment that LTK was slow because it
> was based on TK)
> %
> Continuations certainly are clever, but if we learned anything from the
> rejection of the cover art for "Smell the Glove", it is that "there is a
> fine line between stupid... and clever".
> -- Ken Tilton <·················@newsfe08.lga>
> %
> Ah, there's no place like academia for dispassionate, intellectually
> honest discussion of new ideas on their merits. Thank god for tenure
> giving your bold antagonist the protection they needed to shout down
> your iconoclastic..... hang on...
> -- Ken Tilton <···············@fe12.lga>
> %
> Whoever objected must be in my killfile, ...
> -- Ken Tilton <···················@newsfe09.lga>
> %
> From memory (but I think I have it right):
>
> "But Jesus said, Suffer captured variables, and forbid them not, to come
> unto thine macro bodies: for of such is are DSLs made."
> -- Ken Tilton <··············@fe11.lga>
>
> Can I get an Amen?
> %
> Awareness of defect is the first step to recovery.
> -- Ken Tilton <················@fe09.lga>
> %
> You made a bad analogy (there are no good ones, but you found a new
> low) ...
> -- Ken Tilton <··················@newsfe08.lga>
> %
> Yes, it is true that Kent Pitman was raised by a closet full of Lisp
> Machines, but the exception only proves the rule.
> -- Ken Tilton <··················@newsfe08.lga>
> (in a postscript after positing that computer
> languages are not learned in infancy)
> %
> I suggest you try bartender's school to support yourself, start
> programming for fun again.
> -- Ken Tilton <·················@newsfe09.lga>
> (responding to a comment that 98% of anything to do
> with computers was not interesting code)
> %
> You could add four lanes to my carpal tunnel and I still could not
> write all the code I am dying to write.
> -- Ken Tilton <·················@newsfe09.lga>
> %
> Neutrality? I want to bury other languages, not have a gateway to them.
> -- Ken Tilton <···············@fe09.lga>
> %
> Ken: "Cute puppy. Did you get it for companionship or to pick up chicks?"
> Simon: "Hunh? My puppy /always/ gives me companionship."
> -- Ken Tilton <·············@newsfe10.lga>
> (on how he was understood by a native english speaker)
> %
Rubbish. Where is "They wanted you to copy them first?"?
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: The Ken Tilton CLL fortune file (Summer/Fall 2006)
Date:
Message-ID: <W8qZg.2$QA4.1@newsfe10.lga>
Madhu wrote:
> * Ken Tilton <···············@newsfe11.lga> :
>
> | Rubbish. Where is "They wanted you to copy them first?"?
>
> Sorry, I didn't agree to the TOS of your email provider and avoid send
> mail directly to their servers.
No, I mean:
http://groups.google.com/group/comp.lang.lisp/msg/46f794d13879991a?dmode=source
>
> PS: does the ltktest-ui validation numentry bit work as advertised?
> latest cells upd didnt fix it.
I'll take a look.
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: The Ken Tilton CLL fortune file (Summer/Fall 2006)
Date:
Message-ID: <wBqZg.7$a91.1@newsfe08.lga>
Madhu wrote:
> PS: does the ltktest-ui validation numentry bit work as advertised?
> latest cells upd didnt fix it.
ltktest-ci, right? Are you talking about validation per se or the fact
that the entry widget does not respond reliably to keystrokes
(acknowledging maybe one in 10 or 20)? If the latter, we sorted that out
at one point but I have forgotten how, and now I see it still
misbehaves. Making me think the fix we found was to increase the
*event-loop-delay* to 0.10, but I like it at 0.08, so once we had the
fix I set it back. Should make that a parameter or something.
I have pinged cells-devel for help remembering the bugfix since I think
that is where we worked it out.
Try .10.
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: Frank Goenninger DG1SBG
Subject: Re: The Ken Tilton CLL fortune file (Summer/Fall 2006)
Date:
Message-ID: <m2irigg5eo.fsf@pcsde001.local>
Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
> Madhu wrote:
>
>> PS: does the ltktest-ui validation numentry bit work as advertised?
>> latest cells upd didnt fix it.
>
> ltktest-ci, right? Are you talking about validation per se or the fact
> that the entry widget does not respond reliably to keystrokes
> (acknowledging maybe one in 10 or 20)? If the latter, we sorted that
> out at one point but I have forgotten how, and now I see it still
> misbehaves. Making me think the fix we found was to increase the
> *event-loop-delay* to 0.10, but I like it at 0.08, so once we had the
> fix I set it back. Should make that a parameter or something.
That's exactly what was "tuned" - and it was found to be
implementation *and* platform dependent...
>
> I have pinged cells-devel for help remembering the bugfix since I
> think that is where we worked it out.
Which is where I gave a slightly misleading answer... ;-)
Frank