Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
Or at least makes more than www.sugarcrm.com, a hunk of php crap I had
to bitterly support and teach thier own support teks how to use for 12
months.....??!
gavino wrote:
> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
Because he's above that.
> Or at least makes more than www.sugarcrm.com, a hunk of php crap I had
> to bitterly support and teach thier own support teks how to use for 12
> months.....??!
Because he'll never be as desperate for work as you.
(message (Hello 'sticky_keys)
(you :wrote :on '(16 Nov 2006 14:05:28 -0800))
(
??>> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
sk> Because he's above that.
by the way, as for great haskell'er John Hughes:
"That's right, the illustrious John Hughes is dropping out of school to do
an Erlang startup!"
http://lambda-the-ultimate.org/node/1827
)
(With-best-regards '(Alex Mizrahi) :aka 'killer_storm)
"People who lust for the Feel of keys on their fingertips (c) Inity")
From: Charlton Wilbur
Subject: Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?
Date:
Message-ID: <87hcwzqepd.fsf@mithril.chromatico.net>
>>>>> "g" == gavino <········@yahoo.com> writes:
g> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the
g> industry?
Because he's a tenured professor at MIT, which means he doesn't have
to worry about income or job security, and he has better (read: more
interesting) things to do.
Charlton
--
Charlton Wilbur
·······@chromatico.net
From: Thomas Lindgren
Subject: Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?
Date:
Message-ID: <87wt5v2hts.fsf@dev.null>
"gavino" <········@yahoo.com> writes:
> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
> Or at least makes more than www.sugarcrm.com, a hunk of php crap I had
> to bitterly support and teach thier own support teks how to use for 12
> months.....??!
Why are the trolls so bloody dull these days?
--
Thomas Lindgren
"Ever tried. Ever failed. No matter. Try again. Fail again. Fail better."
On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
> Why are the trolls so bloody dull these days?
All the intelligent trolls have been scared away by Kenny.
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <m2o7h.4086$HS.3624@newsfe10.lga>
Christopher Koppler wrote:
> On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
>
>
>>Why are the trolls so bloody dull these days?
>
>
> All the intelligent trolls have been scared away by Kenny.
>
Fortunately we can look for the species to recover now that I am busy with:
http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNYCAlgebra1.pdf
You may have to D/L fast before Reader goes belly-up when running under
FireFox (or just "save link location" or something, but I crashed three
times (after ten seconds or so)). That covers the first half, and the
video of the second half:
ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that either.
Ain't computers grand?
:)
kenny
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
> Christopher Koppler wrote:
>> On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
[...]
> half, and the video of the second half:
>
> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>
> ...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
> either.
Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
"others":
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
ftp> get IMGP0999.MOV
local: IMGP0999.MOV remote: IMGP0999.MOV
229 Extended passive mode on (|||58604|)
550 'IMGP0999.MOV': Permission denied
ftp> ls -l
229 Extended passive mode on (|||49919|)
150 Starting ASCII transfer for file listing.
total 243681
-rwx------ 1 heow webstaff 249286630 Nov 16 16:31 IMGP0999.MOV
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
--
Wolfram Fenske
A: Yes.
>Q: Are you sure?
>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <455E347F.9050300@gmail.com>
Wolfram Fenske wrote:
> Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>Christopher Koppler wrote:
>>
>>>On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
>
>
> [...]
>
>
>>half, and the video of the second half:
>>
>> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>>
>>...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
>>either.
>
>
> Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
> I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
> "others":
Thx, I'll pass it along to proper authorities. kt
>
> --8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
> ftp> get IMGP0999.MOV
> local: IMGP0999.MOV remote: IMGP0999.MOV
> 229 Extended passive mode on (|||58604|)
> 550 'IMGP0999.MOV': Permission denied
> ftp> ls -l
> 229 Extended passive mode on (|||49919|)
> 150 Starting ASCII transfer for file listing.
> total 243681
> -rwx------ 1 heow webstaff 249286630 Nov 16 16:31 IMGP0999.MOV
> --8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
>
> --
> Wolfram Fenske
>
> A: Yes.
>
>>Q: Are you sure?
>>
>>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>
>>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
>
>
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: lurker
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <ejlccu$q08$1@aioe.server.aioe.org>
Wolfram Fenske wrote:
> Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Christopher Koppler wrote:
>>> On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
>
> [...]
>
>> half, and the video of the second half:
>>
>> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>>
>> ...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
>> either.
>
> Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
> I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
> "others":
No problems viewing the file in konqueror.
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <oBv7h.4681$AO3.1319@newsfe12.lga>
lurker wrote:
> Wolfram Fenske wrote:
>
>
>>Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>>
>>
>>>Christopher Koppler wrote:
>>>
>>>>On Nov 16, 10:34 pm, Thomas Lindgren wrote:
>>
>>[...]
>>
>>
>>>half, and the video of the second half:
>>>
>>> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>>>
>>>...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
>>>either.
>>
>>Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
>>I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
>>"others":
>
>
> No problems viewing the file in konqueror.
The MOV video? You have a first. But if you mean the PDF write-up...
turns out other(s) on win32/firefox have been able to read the PDF sans
issue. Well, I am massaging it and will try HTML next so the write-up
may be a non-issue by manana sometime.
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
> lurker wrote:
>> Wolfram Fenske wrote:
>>
>>>Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>>>
>>>> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>>>>
>>>>...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
>>>>either.
>>>
>>>Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
>>>I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
>>>"others":
>> No problems viewing the file in konqueror.
>
> The MOV video? You have a first.
I'd be surprised. But in any case, apparently somebody disabled
anonymous access to the server. Before, I was at least able to log
on, but now even that doesn't work anymore:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
[·······@hondo: ~]
$ ftp ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
Connected to lispnyc.org.
220 LispNYC.org
331 Password required for anonymous.
530 Login incorrect.
ftp: Login failed.
ftp: Can't connect or login to host `lispnyc.org'
221 Goodbye.
[·······@hondo: ~]
$ ftp lispnyc.org
Connected to lispnyc.org.
220 LispNYC.org
Name (lispnyc.org:wfenske): anonymous
331 Password required for anonymous.
Password: [I typed in an email address]
530 Login incorrect.
ftp: Login failed.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
It's the same in Firefox.
--
Wolfram Fenske
A: Yes.
>Q: Are you sure?
>>A: Because it reverses the logical flow of conversation.
>>>Q: Why is top posting frowned upon?
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <BVB7h.6243$AO3.5601@newsfe12.lga>
Wolfram Fenske wrote:
> Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>
>
>>lurker wrote:
>>
>>>Wolfram Fenske wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>Ken Tilton <·········@gmail.com> writes:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> ftp://lispnyc.org/meeting-assets/2006-11-15_algebra1/
>>>>>
>>>>>...pisses off ftp running under FireFox, so you cannot see that
>>>>>either.
>>>>
>>>>Well, Firefox tells me the file is not a directory. This is true, but
>>>>I think the real problem is that you forgot to give read permission to
>>>>"others":
>>>
>>>No problems viewing the file in konqueror.
>>
>>The MOV video? You have a first.
>
>
> I'd be surprised. But in any case, apparently somebody disabled
> anonymous access to the server. Before, I was at least able to log
> on, but now even that doesn't work anymore:
Ah, OK, I was wondering. I gather the FTP Server is being upgraded.
Maybe they disabled logins in the interim? Or missed an install option?
Anyway, The Powers That Be have been alerted. Thx again.
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <XWE7h.6$MB4.1@newsfe12.lga>
>
> Ah, OK, I was wondering. I gather the FTP Server is being upgraded.
> Maybe they disabled logins in the interim? Or missed an install option?
> Anyway, The Powers That Be have been alerted. Thx again.
In the meantime, now as HTML:
http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
From: Frank Buss
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <1m6b7ym1602rv.1cfweh55g7jy4.dlg@40tude.net>
Ken Tilton wrote:
> In the meantime, now as HTML:
>
> http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
Nice introduction for your software, but I'm missing the maybe interesting
presentation of your software. And was it written in Lisp?
--
Frank Buss, ··@frank-buss.de
http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
From: Ken Tilton
Subject: Re: Kenny Does LispNYC [was Re: why isn't sussman owner of big software firm if he invented scheme?]
Date:
Message-ID: <s8H7h.16$MB4.13@newsfe12.lga>
Frank Buss wrote:
> Ken Tilton wrote:
>
>
>>In the meantime, now as HTML:
>>
>>http://www.tilton-technology.com/LispNycAlgebra1.htm
>
>
> Nice introduction for your software, but I'm missing the maybe interesting
> presentation of your software.
Yeah, that was the real fun. Let's see what is on the video when the ftp
thang gets sorted out.
> And was it written in Lisp?
>
It was originally prototyped in Logo and then ported to C. It is being
rewritten from scratch in CL, atop Cello, CelloTk (a Celtk subset
stripped of support for Tk widgets), and Cells. Cello uses bindings to
C/C++ GraphicsMagick, OpenGL, FTGL, and OpenAl, though I am using Tcl's
Snack API for sound since it is simpler and I do not need 3D.
kt
--
Cells: http://common-lisp.net/project/cells/
"I'll say I'm losing my grip, and it feels terrific."
-- Smiling husband to scowling wife, New Yorker cartoon
On Thu, 16 Nov 2006 11:56:20 -0800, gavino wrote:
> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
> Or at least makes more than www.sugarcrm.com, a hunk of php crap I had
> to bitterly support and teach thier own support teks how to use for 12
> months.....??!
Why don't you ask him? I dunno; maybe being an entrepreneur wasn't his thing.
Maybe it's the same with musicians; some have more focus on the music than
the money-making schemes.
--
Lars Rune Nøstdal
http://lars.nostdal.org/
In article <························@i42g2000cwa.googlegroups.com>,
"gavino" <········@yahoo.com> wrote:
> Why doesn't sussman have a software firm that dominates the industry?
See:
http://rondam.blogspot.com/2006/10/top-ten-geek-business-myths.html
particularly myth #1.
rg