From: K.S.Sreeram
Subject: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155195970.252345.262600@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Hi All,

I've been reading up on lisp/scheme for a while, and i want to get my
hands dirty in actually building an application in common lisp. With
that in mind, it'll be great if any of you can help me in answering
this question:

What is the best common lisp distro for building windows desktop
applications?

More specifically, i'm looking for the following:
- It should be quite easy to interface and link with external C/C++
code.
- Having bindings to some existing GUI library (Qt or Win32-native)
will be nice, but its not a show stopper, because i can very well write
an application-specific interface to the GUI libs with C/C++.
- It should be possible to create standalone exes/binaries so that i
can distribute my application over the internet.

Based on these requirements and a bit of searching on the web, it looks
like CLISP and ECLS are potential candidates. Have I missed out any
other option? Does anybody else have any experience building windows
apps with CL?

Regards, and Thanks in Advance!
[sreeram;]

From: pTymN
Subject: Re: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155220057.912028.281950@q16g2000cwq.googlegroups.com>
K.S.Sreeram wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> I've been reading up on lisp/scheme for a while, and i want to get my
> hands dirty in actually building an application in common lisp. With
> that in mind, it'll be great if any of you can help me in answering
> this question:
>
> What is the best common lisp distro for building windows desktop
> applications?
>
> More specifically, i'm looking for the following:
> - It should be quite easy to interface and link with external C/C++
> code.
> - Having bindings to some existing GUI library (Qt or Win32-native)
> will be nice, but its not a show stopper, because i can very well write
> an application-specific interface to the GUI libs with C/C++.
> - It should be possible to create standalone exes/binaries so that i
> can distribute my application over the internet.
>
> Based on these requirements and a bit of searching on the web, it looks
> like CLISP and ECLS are potential candidates. Have I missed out any
> other option? Does anybody else have any experience building windows
> apps with CL?
>
> Regards, and Thanks in Advance!
> [sreeram;]

Hello,

I am writing a 2D physics engine in Corman Common Lisp. The framerates
are anywhere from 300-1200 frames per second. The license is extremely
generous, you get the source for for everything except the IDE, even
before you buy! At $250, CCL has been a great investment. Roger Corman
has provided excellent support, and helped me get a complicated setup
involving multiple DLLs across different languages working.

The evaluation and full version let you create standalone DLL or EXE
program. Just in case you are curious, its pretty easy to set up Visual
Studio so that you can debug the C++ and Lisp sides of a program
simultaneously.
From: ············@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155222949.410692.139110@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
$250 is a lot better than other commercial implementations, but how do
you make it work under the visual studio environment??
From: Bill Atkins
Subject: Re: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155224775.202791.21760@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
············@gmail.com wrote:
> $250 is a lot better than other commercial implementations, but how do
> you make it work under the visual studio environment??

You don't.  Even if you can, you don't.
From: Mallor
Subject: Re: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155238289.031174.30530@i3g2000cwc.googlegroups.com>
Bill Atkins wrote:
> ············@gmail.com wrote:
> > $250 is a lot better than other commercial implementations, but how do
> > you make it work under the visual studio environment??
>
> You don't.  Even if you can, you don't.

In fact I don't think there's anything that works under Visual Studio
at all at any price?


Cheers,
Brandon Van Every
From: ············@gmail.com
Subject: Re: CL Recommendations?
Date: 
Message-ID: <1155260341.460532.166950@m73g2000cwd.googlegroups.com>
Mallor wrote:
> Bill Atkins wrote:
> > ············@gmail.com wrote:
> > > $250 is a lot better than other commercial implementations, but how do
> > > you make it work under the visual studio environment??
> >
> > You don't.  Even if you can, you don't.
> In fact I don't think there's anything that works under Visual Studio
> at all at any price?
   pTymN mentioned you can debug corman lisp in the visual studio
environment, that's why I suppose you can develop in the visual studio
environment.