I made a proposition in the Rons thread of making collection of
libraries packed
that will work out of box with single download :
To repeat myself :
The Alexandria(Or whatever the name will be ) : collection of Common
Lisp libraries packed with their interdependancies\in that way that
Lisper could use them as simply as :
(require 'araneida) .
The idea :
There's a plenty of proven code in the Lisp world : Cl-SQL,CFFI,
araneida, kpax etc.
They will packed in one single archive with their dependancies so
Lisper will just download
the archive and unpack it
CL directory is a good place to start but why not have them all packed
so there will be no more downloads and tweaking.
Does anybody else feels that there's need for something like that?
bobi
"Vagif Verdi" <···········@gmail.com> wrote in message
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> And who is going to maintain it every time any of participants have new
> version ?
> You know, test, that nothing breaks etc.
>
Debian can do it. So the task isn't impossible.
Errr..... don't ASDF and ASDF-INSTALL already do this?
Granted they have problems in Windows systems, but it can be as simple
as:
(asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :tbnl)
On some CL implementations, in fact, (require :tbnl) also checks for an
ASDF-installed package named tbnl. Ex SBCL.
Support for ASDF seems reasonably good - ASDF libraries are many enough
that I can build some simple stuff with them. Edi Weitz, for instance,
releases most of his libraries with ASDF-defines. IIRC Edi Weitz has
been one of the most prolific library writers of CL.
Alan Manuel K. Gloria напиша:
> Errr..... don't ASDF and ASDF-INSTALL already do this?
>
> Granted they have problems in Windows systems, but it can be as simple
> as:
>
> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op :tbnl)
>
> On some CL implementations, in fact, (require :tbnl) also checks for an
> ASDF-installed package named tbnl. Ex SBCL.
>
> Support for ASDF seems reasonably good - ASDF libraries are many enough
> that I can build some simple stuff with them. Edi Weitz, for instance,
> releases most of his libraries with ASDF-defines. IIRC Edi Weitz has
> been one of the most prolific library writers of CL.
The problem is that you have to make ASDF works too.
It doesn't ships with all implementations and again you have to pick
and download your library.
I don't know about you but install for someone coming from C... means
installer.
Anyway I see that there is no interest in this.
From: Holger Schauer
Subject: Re: Do Lispers need libraries packed that will work out of box?
Date:
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On 4613 September 1993, fireblade wrote:
> Alan Manuel K. Gloria ������:
>> Errr..... don't ASDF and ASDF-INSTALL already do this?
> The problem is that you have to make ASDF works too.
> It doesn't ships with all implementations and again you have to pick
> and download your library.
Then talk to the distributor of your implementation if it doesn't.
> I don't know about you but install for someone coming from C... means
> installer.
Huh? Coming from the C world, installing to me means:
"You know. ftp. Untar. ./configure. make. Use."
-- Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen on xemacs-beta
And guess what? If you don't have configure and make installed, that
will fail. Pretty please, everybody stop whining about the need to
install asdf and do something against/for it.
Holger
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