Hello c.l.l.,
I'm working on some web-stuff, and for fun I've created a webfrontend
to a game of Go to test it out:
http://nostdal.org:5050/sw/SWGo/SWGo/
It's currently only tested with Firefox (1.5.0.1) and Opera (8.52).
Hope you like it even though it's still kind of buggy and incomplete; I
only have a couple of months experience with Lisp (and JavaScript).
You'll find the source code on my homepage.
--
mvh,
Lars Rune Nøstdal
http://lars.nostdal.org/
> I'm working on some web-stuff, and for fun I've created a webfrontend
> to a game of Go to test it out:
>
> http://nostdal.org:5050/sw/SWGo/SWGo/
I like it. A big problem, though, is trying to figure out the last move
played. This program would be much easier to use if the most recently
played stone were marked somehow. Occassionally I don't notice when the
computer plays a move, so when it takes a long time to decide I'm not
sure whether I just missed it.
>> I'm working on some web-stuff, and for fun I've created a webfrontend
>> to a game of Go to test it out:
>> http://nostdal.org:5050/sw/SWGo/SWGo/
>I like it. A big problem, though,
>is trying to figure out the last moveplayed.
And for Go beginers also, to visualize the move...
Only during your turn... a greyed / translucent stone of your color
snaps
around the board following the cursor. (that's what AJAX is for,
right?)
Lars Rune N�stdal wrote:
> Hello c.l.l.,
> I'm working on some web-stuff, and for fun I've created a webfrontend
> to a game of Go to test it out:
>
> http://nostdal.org:5050/sw/SWGo/SWGo/
>
> It's currently only tested with Firefox (1.5.0.1) and Opera (8.52).
In Internet Explorer 6 it looks like this:
http://www.frank-buss.de/tmp/go.png
But with Firefox it works. There were once a problem that a stone of the
computer was not displayed, so placing to a field which looks empty
returned "illegal move". Redrawing the whole board with "undo" (or opening
it again in the browser) solved this problem.
What do you think of a Macromedia Flash interface, like my Trisoli:
http://www.frank-buss.de/trisoli/
This would work on every browser with a Flash Plugin, which are about 98 %
of all systems, if you are creating Flash 6 output:
http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
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http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
A Flash-based solution would probably be better and cooler in many
ways. But the authoring-tool does not work on my OS, and I'd have to
steal it and a new OS to be able to access it. :|
I hope IE7 will be better, but I'm thinking probably not. :)
Has anyone looked at SVG? I know there are some authoring-tools for
Linux there, like Inkscape. Maybe something there combined with the
Adobe SVG-plugin would work. I guess "native" SVG-support in browsers
currently is worse than (X)HTML/CSS-support.
--
mvh,
Lars Rune Nøstdal
http://lars.nostdal.org/
Lars Rune N�stdal wrote:
> A Flash-based solution would probably be better and cooler in many
> ways. But the authoring-tool does not work on my OS, and I'd have to
> steal it and a new OS to be able to access it. :|
I didn't tried it, because I'm using Windows XP and have bought the
authoring tool from Macromedia, but maybe this works for you:
http://f4l.sourceforge.net/
Otherwise it should be an interesting project to write a Flash authoring
tool in Lisp :-)
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Frank Buss, ··@frank-buss.de
http://www.frank-buss.de, http://www.it4-systems.de
Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
> Otherwise it should be an interesting project to write a Flash authoring
> tool in Lisp :-)
Zach Beane has some code:
http://www.xach.com/lisp/cl-flash/
Paolo
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Paolo Amoroso <·······@mclink.it> writes:
> Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
>
> > Otherwise it should be an interesting project to write a Flash authoring
> > tool in Lisp :-)
>
> Zach Beane has some code:
>
> http://www.xach.com/lisp/cl-flash/
Warning: that code is incomplete and undocumented.
Sergio Garcia has some better code:
http://bachue.com/svnwiki/gordon
Zach
Lars Rune N�stdal <···········@gmail.com> wrote:
+---------------
| A Flash-based solution would probably be better and cooler in many
| ways. But the authoring-tool does not work on my OS, and I'd have to
| steal it and a new OS to be able to access it. :|
+---------------
Plus the recent security vulnerabilities in Flash:
http://isc.sans.org/diary.php?storyid=1191
But this is hardly the first time this has happened with Flash.
It has a long, tarnished history of similar defects, which is why
I keep it permanently disabled in all my browsers and simply boycott
any site which fails to provide decent navigation without it.
But YMMV...
-Rob
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627 26th Avenue <URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
Yeah, I was curious what algorithm it was using.
rif
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Subject: Re: Web-frontend to a game of Go
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Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
> What do you think of a Macromedia Flash interface, like my Trisoli:
> http://www.frank-buss.de/trisoli/
I can't see this.
> This would work on every browser with a Flash Plugin, which are about 98 %
> of all systems, if you are creating Flash 6 output:
Macromedia has as far as I know not been able to release a version for
Linux on x86_64, so if linux users are part of your audience I would
not go for a flash solution.
--
-asbjxrn
Frank Buss <··@frank-buss.de> writes:
> What do you think of a Macromedia Flash interface, like my Trisoli:
> http://www.frank-buss.de/trisoli/
> This would work on every browser with a Flash Plugin, which are about 98 %
> of all systems, if you are creating Flash 6 output:
> http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/flashplayer/version_penetration.html
I can't believe I'm among 2% of Mohicans.
Given that these figures comes from Macromedia themselves, one should
be careful about them.
Maybe it's just that 98% of people who visit the Macromedia website
have a Flashplayer (at least after their visit)?
Or that 98% of the people fool enough to have Javascript unselectively
enabled so as to allow some websites to collect statistics about them
also have Flashplayer installed? A sign of low security awareness?
Or that 98% of people attracted by a 100$ earning for conducting a
survey have Macromedia installed, with a 5 to 2000 chance of winning?
http://www.macromedia.com/software/player_census/npd/
My own statistics would be that 98% of Flash usage in the WWW is junk
and not worth installing. I'll have to live with not being able to
view the remaining 2%. And I'll try to stay away from Flash even
though the children surfing the web would like to know what the (IMHO
presumably silly) animations would look like.
Oh, I forgot to mention that not having a Flashplayer will nicely save
my bandwidth by not loading Flashplayer advertisements ;-)
Regards,
Jorg Hohle
I've added a couple of features (probably some new bugs too) and fixed
some things:
* recent moves are marked
* pass-button
* stones no longer look like "potatoes"
* score is shown (W+2.5 means White is leading)
..more to come.. :)
--
mvh,
Lars Rune Nøstdal
http://lars.nostdal.org/
"Lars Rune N�stdal" <···········@gmail.com> writes:
> I've added a couple of features (probably some new bugs too) and fixed
> some things:
>
> * recent moves are marked
> * pass-button
> * stones no longer look like "potatoes"
> * score is shown (W+2.5 means White is leading)
>
> ..more to come.. :)
Lovely front-end to GNU Go and a good example of AJAX
style Internet UI.
It would be great if you included the link to the
source code: http://nostdal.org/sw/wiki/SWGo
(I had to spend some time to find it).
As others suggested, letting the user choose the
board size would be fine too.
Cheers,
--
Emre Sevinc
eMBA Software Developer Actively engaged in:
http:www.bilgi.edu.tr http://ileriseviye.org
http://www.bilgi.edu.tr http://fazlamesai.net
Cognitive Science Student http://cazci.com
http://www.cogsci.boun.edu.tr
"Lars Rune N�stdal" <···········@gmail.com> writes:
> I've added a couple of features (probably some new bugs too) and fixed
> some things:
>
> * recent moves are marked
> * pass-button
> * stones no longer look like "potatoes"
> * score is shown (W+2.5 means White is leading)
>
I played all the way to the end, passed, white connected a
ko, I passed again, then I got a 500 Server Error, when I
expected a smirk because level 0 had beaten me by 12 points.
Is this a bug in how the Web bit talks to GNU Go at the end
of the game?
Alan Crowe
Edinburgh
Scotland
> Is this a bug in how the Web bit talks to GNU Go at the end
> of the game?
Yes, I'm working on this.
--
mvh,
Lars Rune Nøstdal
http://lars.nostdal.org/
Lars Rune N�stdal wrote:
> I'm working on some web-stuff, and for fun I've created a webfrontend
> to a game of Go to test it out:
>
> http://nostdal.org:5050/sw/SWGo/SWGo/
>
> It's currently only tested with Firefox (1.5.0.1) and Opera (8.52).
Nice work. A beginners / quick-game field size would be nice, too. I'm
not quite sure what the common size is. I think it was something like
13x13 or 9x9.
> Nice work. A beginners / quick-game field size would be nice, too. I'm
> not quite sure what the common size is. I think it was something like
> 13x13 or 9x9.
There are 3 common sizes: 9x9, 13x13, and 19x19, with 19x19 being the
traditional size.
I actually consider it the other way around. It is the advanced players
that need a small board because computer go players play so poorly on a
large board :-p