From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
Message-ID: <op.szl2hde1pqzri1@mjolner.upc.no>
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 01:38:09 +0100, Nikhil Ketkar <············@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not? Is
> it that they are enough and more of libraries but there but not found
> easily like Python, Perl and Java because they are spread out? Is the
> lack of popularity of CL to blame and people are not writing and using
> new libraries? Is it the lack of usage by industry leaders like Sun
> and Google? (Google is big on Python) Is it the lack of glue (like a
> foreign fuction interface) which allows the reuse of libraries in other
> languages like Python?
>
The number of libraries that come with the free versions of CL are
fairly minimal. The commercial like LispWorks are better, ACL is better
still. All Lisp's have a (implementation spesific) foreign function
interface.
There is a attemt to make more portable libraries
(based on the UFFI - Universal Foreign Function Interface).
cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
(cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
Nevertheless you might want to look at foil which gives access to Java and
.net
libraries at http://foil.sourceforge.net/
Unlike Perl, Java and Python there is no single implementation of CL which
is standard.
So you would probaly want to choose a implementation and stick with it.
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From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
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On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:35:27 +0100, "John Thingstad" <··············@chello.no> wrote:
> cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
> (cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
cl-html is a must? Where can I get it? Google and CLiki (which I
assume you mean when you say "cl-wiki") don't know anything about it.
Cheers,
Edi.
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From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
Message-ID: <op.szl4jpqcpqzri1@mjolner.upc.no>
On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:00:47 +0100, Edi Weitz <········@agharta.de> wrote:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:35:27 +0100, "John Thingstad"
> <··············@chello.no> wrote:
>
>> cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
>> (cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
>
> cl-html is a must? Where can I get it? Google and CLiki (which I
> assume you mean when you say "cl-wiki") don't know anything about it.
>
> Cheers,
> Edi.
>
Oops.. cl-wiki is the wiki engine for CL available at
http://www.cliki.net/web
cl-html I shamessly extrated (and renamed) from Peters Seibels book
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ not cliki.
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From: Peter Seibel
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
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"John Thingstad" <··············@chello.no> writes:
> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 13:00:47 +0100, Edi Weitz <········@agharta.de> wrote:
>
>> On Wed, 02 Nov 2005 12:35:27 +0100, "John Thingstad"
>> <··············@chello.no> wrote:
>>
>>> cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
>>> (cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
>>
>> cl-html is a must? Where can I get it? Google and CLiki (which I
>> assume you mean when you say "cl-wiki") don't know anything about it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Edi.
>>
>
> Oops.. cl-wiki is the wiki engine for CL available at
> http://www.cliki.net/web
> cl-html I shamessly extrated (and renamed) from Peters Seibels book
> http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/ not cliki.
Also recently packaged up and made available under the original name
(FOO -- FOO Outputs Output) at:
<http://www.gigamonkeys.com/lisp/foo-0.3.tar.gz>
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From: Stefan Scholl
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
Message-ID: <aqktlvw9az6f$.dlg@parsec.no-spoon.de>
On 2005-11-02 12:35:27, John Thingstad wrote:
> cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
> (cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
CL-WIKI _uses_ CL-PPCRE but none of the other libraries you mention.
From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: Why do Python, Java and Perl have so many libraries and CL does not?
Date:
Message-ID: <op.szog2upgpqzri1@mjolner.upc.no>
On Thu, 03 Nov 2005 19:30:48 +0100, Stefan Scholl <······@no-spoon.de>
wrote:
> On 2005-11-02 12:35:27, John Thingstad wrote:
>
>> cl-wiki has a collection of libraries, some are quite good..
>> (cl-ppcre, cl-html, cl-pdf, cl-sql are a must)
>
> CL-WIKI _uses_ CL-PPCRE but none of the other libraries you mention.
www.cliki.net..
It does when I query it!
Except for cl-html.. look for earlier post by Edi Weitz.
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