From: Robert
Subject: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <csimho$ecq$8@ls219.htnet.hr>
    Alloo,


Does anybody knows where I can get a precompiled
CLISP for windows.

                                             Thanks in advance, Robert !
                                              ···········@yahoo.co.uk 

From: Sam Steingold
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <uu0pe7oa3.fsf@gnu.org>
> * Robert <···········@lnubb.pb.hx> [2005-01-18 10:57:09 +0100]:
>
>     Alloo,

Hi Robert

> Does anybody knows where I can get a precompiled CLISP for windows.

Over the past few months, you have requested pre-compiled CLISP for
various Linux distributions, DOS, and, yes, Windows too.

Presumably, you are talking about an ANSI Common Lisp Implementation
called "GNU CLISP" or just CLISP for short.
The answer has always been, and still remains:
Visit CLISP home page <http://clisp.cons.org>.
There, under the column "Get CLISP",
you will find a section "Sources and binaries for various platforms",
the first item, "SourceForge downloads/HTTP",
will take you to the download page where you will be able to choose your
pre-compiled CLISP distribution: clisp-2.33.1-win32.zip
<http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/clisp/clisp-2.33.1-win32.zip?download>

If, OTOH, you are talking about "some Common Lisp (CL) implementation
(not necessarily GNU CLISP)",
then you should visit <http://alu.cliki.net/implementation>.



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From: Maurizio Ferreira
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <fg3vu09tjespb0716tm36opejfk3gneaj2@4ax.com>
look at
http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp


On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:25:08 -0500, Sam Steingold <···@gnu.org> wrote:

>> * Robert <···········@lnubb.pb.hx> [2005-01-18 10:57:09 +0100]:
>>
>>     Alloo,
>
>Hi Robert
>
>> Does anybody knows where I can get a precompiled CLISP for windows.
>
>Over the past few months, you have requested pre-compiled CLISP for
>various Linux distributions, DOS, and, yes, Windows too.
>
>Presumably, you are talking about an ANSI Common Lisp Implementation
>called "GNU CLISP" or just CLISP for short.
>The answer has always been, and still remains:
>Visit CLISP home page <http://clisp.cons.org>.
>There, under the column "Get CLISP",
>you will find a section "Sources and binaries for various platforms",
>the first item, "SourceForge downloads/HTTP",
>will take you to the download page where you will be able to choose your
>pre-compiled CLISP distribution: clisp-2.33.1-win32.zip
><http://prdownloads.sourceforge.net/clisp/clisp-2.33.1-win32.zip?download>
>
>If, OTOH, you are talking about "some Common Lisp (CL) implementation
>(not necessarily GNU CLISP)",
>then you should visit <http://alu.cliki.net/implementation>.
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <NsOHd.63590$ld2.22751473@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
> look at
> http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp

All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."

kt
From: Sam Steingold
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <usm4w2mek.fsf@gnu.org>
> * Kenny Tilton <·······@alp.ee.pbz> [2005-01-20 13:35:41 +0000]:
>
> Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
>> look at
>> http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp
>
> All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."

I don't see even that!

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From: Maurizio Ferreira
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <oikvu0du4h21rn3mdtbat4303tqqd05j49@4ax.com>
Very strange ! what browser are you using ?

I see them correctly both with Internet explorer 6.0.2800.1106 and
with mozilla firefox 1.0.

Please note : the corret url is

http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/en.htm

and not 

http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/en.html

the last word is "en.htm", not "en.html"
regards



On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:41:23 -0500, Sam Steingold <···@gnu.org> wrote:

>> * Kenny Tilton <·······@alp.ee.pbz> [2005-01-20 13:35:41 +0000]:
>>
>> Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
>>> look at
>>> http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp
>>
>> All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."
>
>I don't see even that!
From: Sam Steingold
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <ud5w02i2w.fsf@gnu.org>
> * Maurizio Ferreira [2005-01-20 16:48:25 +0100]:
>
> Very strange ! what browser are you using ?

MozFF.

> On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:41:23 -0500, Sam Steingold <···@gnu.org> wrote:
>
>>> * Kenny Tilton <·······@alp.ee.pbz> [2005-01-20 13:35:41 +0000]:
>>>
>>> Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
>>>> look at
>>>> http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp
>>>
>>> All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."
>>
>>I don't see even that!

I meant, neither Iraq nor W are mention in the page I see.

(incidentally, this guy appears to be taking an example from Knuth:
he versions his tool using decimal approximations of pi :-).

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From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <6SSHd.59627$kq2.40125@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Sam Steingold wrote:

>>* Maurizio Ferreira [2005-01-20 16:48:25 +0100]:
>>
>>Very strange ! what browser are you using ?
> 
> 
> MozFF.
> 
> 
>>On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 09:41:23 -0500, Sam Steingold <···@gnu.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>>* Kenny Tilton <·······@alp.ee.pbz> [2005-01-20 13:35:41 +0000]:
>>>>
>>>>Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>look at
>>>>>http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp
>>>>
>>>>All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."
>>>
>>>I don't see even that!
> 
> 
> I meant, neither Iraq nor W are mention in the page I see.

I have version 3.1415. Then select "About.." on the Help menu and 
exercise some patience. Dubbya comes up last. (I was looking for the 
photos on the splash screen, thought they might be on the About screen.) 
It /is/ funny how the mildly controversial menorah has been taken to an 
extreme. Possibly I am missing a joke. :)

Btw, it was "Special thanks", not just "Thanks".

I only used VCLisp for about two minutes, but it at least seemed OK. So 
I find myself wondering if I would eschew the thing because of the Iraq 
comment. Probably. Hard to say since I use another tool on win32. Of 
course, if it is a joke... :)

kt

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From: Bulent Murtezaoglu
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <87brbjkhxl.fsf@p4.internal>
>>>>> "KT" == Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
[...]
    KT> ... So I find myself wondering if I would eschew the
    KT> thing because of the Iraq comment. Probably. Hard to say since
    KT> I use another tool on win32. Of course, if it is a joke... :)

Why would you care one way or another?  If we had to agree with everyone 
whose free software we used, we'd be in trouble.  You could take those 
strings out if they offend you, the source is available.  It is easier 
than turning off _functionality_ you dislike.

(I wonder if Emre should advertise the availability of a free CL ide
that resembles what folks here are used to stealing.  It might
generate interest sorts if that comment was advertised too.  You're
the publicity guru around here, what do you think we should do?  Fake
outrage on the GWB bit?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4187525.stm )

cheers,

BM
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <z2UHd.59648$kq2.49900@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:
>>>>>>"KT" == Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> 
> [...]
>     KT> ... So I find myself wondering if I would eschew the
>     KT> thing because of the Iraq comment. Probably. Hard to say since
>     KT> I use another tool on win32. Of course, if it is a joke... :)
> 
> Why would you care one way or another?  If we had to agree with everyone 
> whose free software we used, we'd be in trouble.  You could take those 
> strings out if they offend you, the source is available.

You know, I had not even thought of it from that (open software) angle. 
As I said, this is all in the abstract because I am all set on Windows.

That said, no, I would not want to be involved with a project whose 
creator differed from me on the issue of (roughly speaking) genocide.

kt

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From: Emre Sevinc
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <874qhbq0c3.fsf@ileriseviye.org>
Bulent Murtezaoglu <··@acm.org> writes:

>>>>>> "KT" == Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> [...]
>     KT> ... So I find myself wondering if I would eschew the
>     KT> thing because of the Iraq comment. Probably. Hard to say since
>     KT> I use another tool on win32. Of course, if it is a joke... :)
>
> Why would you care one way or another?  If we had to agree with everyone 
> whose free software we used, we'd be in trouble.  You could take those 
> strings out if they offend you, the source is available.  It is easier 
> than turning off _functionality_ you dislike.
>
> (I wonder if Emre should advertise the availability of a free CL ide
> that resembles what folks here are used to stealing.  It might


I'll take a look at it when my Mozilla Firefox stops telling
me "connection timed out", I simply cannot reach the site from
here (Istanbul, Turkey).


> generate interest sorts if that comment was advertised too.  You're
> the publicity guru around here, what do you think we should do?  Fake
> outrage on the GWB bit?  http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/4187525.stm )
>
> cheers,
>
> BM



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From: Maurizio Ferreira
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <bsdvu09ah8tk18c628186qov2g8bc941s4@4ax.com>
Don't you see any menu on the left ?
try then
http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/index.html
or
http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/download.htm
or
http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/en.htm

Regards
Maurizio


On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 13:35:41 GMT, Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
wrote:

>
>
>Maurizio Ferreira wrote:
>> look at
>> http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp
>
>All I see is "Thanks to George W. Bush for invading Iraq."
>
>kt
From: Maurizio Ferreira
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <s3fvu0pemd5soirsrudmqvdr7u8he33l5s@4ax.com>
sorry, the correct url is

http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/en.htm

On Thu, 20 Jan 2005 14:54:12 +0100, Maurizio Ferreira
<·················@selesta.it> wrote:

>http://ciapek.uci.agh.edu.pl/~kwlodarc/VisualCLisp/index.html
From: Andi Scharfstein
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <Xns95E278310DC7Eascalvin8@192.109.42.5>
Hi,

> Does anybody knows where I can get a precompiled
> CLISP for windows.

You'd probably want some kind of IDE as well, so Lisp in a Box might be 
worth a look. It gives you a precompiled version of Emacs as well :)
http://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/
Some basic info about its usage can be found in "Practical Common Lisp":
http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/lather-rinse-repeat-a-tour-of-the-repl.html
There's some very nice material there, take some time to check it out!

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From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: CLISP for windows
Date: 
Message-ID: <opskta5ybwpqzri1@mjolner.upc.no>
On Tue, 18 Jan 2005 10:57:09 +0100, Robert <···········@yahoo.co.uk> wrote:

>     Alloo,
>
>
> Does anybody knows where I can get a precompiled
> CLISP for windows.
>
>                                              Thanks in advance, Robert !
>                                               ···········@yahoo.co.uk
>
>

The easiest option might be lisp-in-a-box  
http://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/
This gives you EMACS+SLIME and CLISP and will install and run in minutes.

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