From: Edi Weitz
Subject: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <uoeesowdw.fsf@agharta.de>
Hi!

Arthur Lemmens and I are trying to organize a "European Common Lisp
Meeting" and I think we've managed to assemble a quite impressive
line-up of speakers.

The meeting will be in Amsterdam on April 24, 2005, and here's the
list of the fellow Lispers who'll give a talk:

  - Jans Aasman
  - Dave Fox
  - Luke Gorrie
  - Antonio Menezes Leitao
  - Christophe Rhodes
  - Robert Strandh
  - Espen Vestre

All details can be found on this website:

  <http://weitz.de/meeting>

We hope that very many of you will be able to attend this meeting and
make it a success.  Please, if you consider joining us, use the
registration facility that can be found at the website above.

We're looking forward to seeing you in Amsterdam in April!

Cheers,
Edi.

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From: Marc Battyani
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <cuv441$lev@library2.airnews.net>
"Edi Weitz" <········@agharta.de> wrote
>
> Arthur Lemmens and I are trying to organize a "European Common Lisp
> Meeting" and I think we've managed to assemble a quite impressive
> line-up of speakers.
>
> The meeting will be in Amsterdam on April 24, 2005, and here's the
> list of the fellow Lispers who'll give a talk:
>
>   - Jans Aasman
>   - Dave Fox
>   - Luke Gorrie
>   - Antonio Menezes Leitao
>   - Christophe Rhodes
>   - Robert Strandh
>   - Espen Vestre
>
> All details can be found on this website:
>
>   <http://weitz.de/meeting>
>
> We hope that very many of you will be able to attend this meeting and
> make it a success.  Please, if you consider joining us, use the
> registration facility that can be found at the website above.
>
> We're looking forward to seeing you in Amsterdam in April!

Well, looking at the current list of registrations it's already a success!
http://weitz.de/lisp/meeting/attendants (52 and counting...)

A lot of the names in this list should be familiar to comp.lang.lisp readers
;-)

Marc
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsmf44xg9k6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Marc Battyani wrote:

>> We're looking forward to seeing you in Amsterdam in April!
>
> Well, looking at the current list of registrations it's already a success!
> http://weitz.de/lisp/meeting/attendants (52 and counting...)

We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)

Arthur
From: Marc Battyani
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <cv9qhv$bos@library1.airnews.net>
"Arthur Lemmens" <········@xs4all.nl> wrote
> Marc Battyani wrote:
>
> >> We're looking forward to seeing you in Amsterdam in April!
> >
> > Well, looking at the current list of registrations it's already a
success!
> > http://weitz.de/lisp/meeting/attendants (52 and counting...)
>
> We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)

71 even!

At the last Amsterdam meeting (in September), you told me that the number of
attendants to the Amsterdam meetings has doubled each time.
This seems to be true once again ;-)

Marc
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsmhtn9shk6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Marc Battyani wrote:

>> We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)
>
> 71 even!

72!

> At the last Amsterdam meeting (in September), you told me that the number of
> attendants to the Amsterdam meetings has doubled each time.
> This seems to be true once again ;-)

Yep.  It's a clear case of exponential growth: 2, 5, 13, 33, 72, ...

;-)

Arthur
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsmhu81i1k6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
I wrote:

>>> We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)
>>
>> 71 even!
>
> 72!

Oops, sorry, I meant 73 ;-)

Arthur
From: Tayssir John Gabbour
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <1108905852.043783.124200@c13g2000cwb.googlegroups.com>
Arthur Lemmens wrote:
> >>> We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)
> >>
> >> 71 even!
> >
> > 72!
>
> Oops, sorry, I meant 73 ;-)

Scary. You guys did a good job with an easy-to-register site.

And I see Edi used TBNL: ("Set-Cookie" . "tbnl-session=[...]")


MfG,
Tayssir
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <ull9j459d.fsf@agharta.de>
On 20 Feb 2005 05:24:12 -0800, "Tayssir John Gabbour" <···········@yahoo.com> wrote:

> And I see Edi used TBNL: ("Set-Cookie" . "tbnl-session=[...]")

How do they say in the marketing department?  Eat your own dog
food... :)

Edi.

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From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsmimklijk6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Tayssir John Gabbour wrote:

> Scary. You guys did a good job with an easy-to-register site.

Edi did that part.

Originally, our plan was to have the meeting in Hamburg: Edi would
do the local stuff and I would do the web site.  But it turned out
that there's a marathon in Hamburg on April 24 (Rainer Joswig will
be running in it), so we decided to move to Amsterdam instead.

Arthur
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <u1xbadgz7.fsf@agharta.de>
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 22:42:11 +0100, Arthur Lemmens <········@xs4all.nl> wrote:

> Originally, our plan was to have the meeting in Hamburg: Edi would
> do the local stuff and I would do the web site.  But it turned out
> that there's a marathon in Hamburg on April 24 (Rainer Joswig will
> be running in it), so we decided to move to Amsterdam instead.

Argh!  Don't remind me... :(

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From: Marc Battyani
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <cvaspq$7eb@library1.airnews.net>
"Arthur Lemmens" <········@xs4all.nl> wrote
> Marc Battyani wrote:
>
> >> We're at 70 now, which means there are only 5 places left :)
> >
> > 71 even!
>
> 72!

75. Game Over. :)

> > At the last Amsterdam meeting (in September), you told me that the
number of
> > attendants to the Amsterdam meetings has doubled each time.
> > This seems to be true once again ;-)
>
> Yep.  It's a clear case of exponential growth: 2, 5, 13, 33, 72, ...

From the first 5 meetings we can extrapolate the number of attendants for
the next 10 meetings:

CL-USER 13 > (sapa::ordinary-least-squares-Cholesky
              (map 'vector #'log '(2 5 13 33 75))
              '(#(1 1 1 1 1) #(1 2 3 4 5))
              :compute-residuals-p t)
#(-0.20441942940385832 0.913575151498511)
#(-0.016008541534707432 -0.01329296115906331 0.02864333236986205
0.04662638487629467 -0.045968214552386755)

OK, not too bad. Now let's see how many people will attend the next ones ;-)

CL-USER 14 > (mapcar #'(lambda (n)
                         (round (exp (- (* 0.913575151498511 n)
0.20441942940385832))))
                    '(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15))
(2 5 13 31 79 196 488 1217 3034 7565 18862 47027 117249 292328 728839)

Marc
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsmik7mngk6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Marc Battyani wrote:

> OK, not too bad. Now let's see how many people will attend the
> next ones ;-)
>
> (2 5 13 31 79 196 488 1217 3034 7565 18862 47027 117249 292328 728839)

The Amsterdam football stadium is pretty big, but I'm not sure if
728839 Lispers would fit there.  Then again, with each Lisper paying
100 euro, maybe I could afford to build a bigger stadium ;-)
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsnshgwqdk6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Marc Battyani wrote:

>> Yep.  It's a clear case of exponential growth: 2, 5, 13, 33, 72, ...
>
> From the first 5 meetings we can extrapolate the number of attendants for
> the next 10 meetings:

I'm afraid you'll have to redo your calculations, Marc ;-)

Arthur
From: Marc Battyani
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <4239bef6$0$88031$16895aa@news.airnews.net>
"Arthur Lemmens" <········@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> Marc Battyani wrote:
>
> >> Yep.  It's a clear case of exponential growth: 2, 5, 13, 33, 72, ...
> >
> > From the first 5 meetings we can extrapolate the number of attendants
for
> > the next 10 meetings:
>
> I'm afraid you'll have to redo your calculations, Marc ;-)

No problem ;-)

CL-USER 9 > (sapa::ordinary-least-squares-Cholesky
              (map 'vector #'log '(2 5 13 33 95))
              '(#(1 1 1 1 1) #(1 2 3 4 5)))

#(-0.2989749406295488 0.9608529071113566)

CL-USER 10 > (mapcar #'(lambda (n)
                         (round (exp (- (* 0.9608529071113566 n)
                                        0.2989749406295488))))
                     '(1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 9 10 11 12 13 14 15))

(2 5 13 35 90 237 618 1616 4225 11043 28866 75453 197227 515538 1347577)

The next 5 or 6 meetings can still be held in Amsterdam, after that you will
have to split the tracks on several stadiums (one stadium for web
applications, one for implementations, etc...., and one for Python ;-)

Cheers,

Marc
From: Arthur Lemmens
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <opsnsqfwjok6vmsw@news.xs4all.nl>
Marc Battyani wrote:

> (2 5 13 35 90 237 618 1616 4225 11043 28866 75453 197227 515538 1347577)
>
> The next 5 or 6 meetings can still be held in Amsterdam, after that you will
> have to split the tracks on several stadiums (one stadium for web
> applications, one for implementations, etc...., and one for Python ;-)

So if I make 1 euro profit per participant, I'll be a millionaire in a
couple of years, right?  Maybe I should sign up for Paul Graham's
"Start a Startup" program ;-)

http://paulgraham.com/summerfounder.html

Arthur
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: European Common Lisp Meeting, Amsterdam, April 2005
Date: 
Message-ID: <uk6p3h3ii.fsf@agharta.de>
On Sun, 20 Feb 2005 12:00:03 +0100, "Marc Battyani" <·············@fractalconcept.com> wrote:

> At the last Amsterdam meeting (in September), you told me that the
> number of attendants to the Amsterdam meetings has doubled each
> time.  This seems to be true once again ;-)

Yes.  I already told Arthur that if this trend continues we'll have to
find a new niche language very soon.  But he didn't want to and
neither want I... :)

Cheers,
Edi.

PS: 72 now - only three more seats available.

    <http://weitz.de/lisp/meeting>

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