I followed the instruction.html till this point
; SLIME 2005-11-07
CL-USER> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'araneida)
; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/araneida.asd into
; #<PACKAGE "ASDF4429">
; registering #<SYSTEM ARANEIDA {10BDA869}> as ARANEIDA
; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/split-sequence.asd
; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4443">
; registering #<SYSTEM :SPLIT-SEQUENCE {4043E959}> as SPLIT-SEQUENCE
; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/net-telent-date.asd
; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4445">
; registering #<SYSTEM NET-TELENT-DATE {405E7661}> as NET-TELENT-DATE
NIL
CL-USER> (load "Projekte/Lisp/araneida/doc/example.fasl")
T
CL-USER>
but http://localhost:8000/ results in: The connection was refused ...
Mac OS X 10.3.9
SBCL 0.4.9
Any hints?
Jens
Jens Teich <····@jensteich.de> writes:
> CL-USER> (load "Projekte/Lisp/araneida/doc/example.fasl")
> T
> CL-USER>
>
> but http://localhost:8000/ results in: The connection was refused ...
>
> Mac OS X 10.3.9
> SBCL 0.4.9
>
> Any hints?
I believe you have to start the server :-) Judging by the comment in
example.lisp, something like
(araneida:start-listening *listener*)
would do the trick.
Christophe
> (araneida:start-listening *listener*)
*listener* is unbound. I think I am missing something very simple with
the instruction 'compile and load the example-file'
Jens
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <u1x0di3yi.fsf@agharta.de>
On 16 Dec 2005 04:59:15 -0800, "jteich" <····@jensteich.de> wrote:
> *listener* is unbound. I think I am missing something very simple
> with the instruction 'compile and load the example-file'
I think you're in the wrong package. For starters, try
(in-package :my-araneida-example)
and then start the listener.
The first steps can be hard... :)
Cheers,
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This helps a bit, thanks.
But the result of localhost:8000 is now
Not found
Was asked for URL http://127.0.0.1:8000/ , but it didn't happen for us. Sorry
REPL says:
MY-ARANEIDA-EXAMPLE>
Logged error: 404 Not Found while processing URL <http://127.0.0.1:8000/>
Logged error: 404 Not Found while processing URL <http://127.0.0.1:8000/favicon.ico>
; No value
So the Browser talked to my REPL!
But where do I find favicon.ico?
Thanks
Jens
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <ulkylgooe.fsf@agharta.de>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:18:54 +0100, Jens Teich <····@JensTeich.de> wrote:
> Not found
> Was asked for URL http://127.0.0.1:8000/ ,
> but it didn't happen for us. Sorry
Look at the code in example.lisp again. Try
http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello
or something like that.
> But where do I find favicon.ico?
You have to provide it. See <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Favicon>.
Cheers,
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> http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello
same result:
Was asked for URL http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello , but it didn't happen for us. Sorry
Jens
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <uhd99gnao.fsf@agharta.de>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:48:25 +0100, Jens Teich <····@JensTeich.de> wrote:
>> http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello
>
> same result:
Try <http://localhost:8000/hello> instead. If that works ask the
Araneida developers why the "127.0.0.1" variant doesn't work. If it
doesn't work - hmm...
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Edi Weitz <········@agharta.de> writes:
> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:48:25 +0100, Jens Teich <····@JensTeich.de> wrote:
>
> >> http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello
> >
> > same result:
>
> Try <http://localhost:8000/hello> instead. If that works ask the
> Araneida developers why the "127.0.0.1" variant doesn't work. If it
> doesn't work - hmm...
Most web servers have the ability to respond differently depending on
how the server is named. That's all that's happening here, although
it admittedly doesn't create the most intuitive hello-world behavior.
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On 19 Dec 2005 02:41:45 -0800, ···@conquest.OCF.Berkeley.EDU (Thomas F.
Burdick) tried to confuse everyone with this message:
>Edi Weitz <········@agharta.de> writes:
>
>> On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:48:25 +0100, Jens Teich <····@JensTeich.de> wrote:
>>
>> >> http://127.0.0.1:8000/hello
>> >
>> > same result:
>>
>> Try <http://localhost:8000/hello> instead. If that works ask the
>> Araneida developers why the "127.0.0.1" variant doesn't work. If it
>> doesn't work - hmm...
>
>Most web servers have the ability to respond differently depending on
>how the server is named. That's all that's happening here, although
>it admittedly doesn't create the most intuitive hello-world behavior.
Is there a way to make all synonims work? My computer could be referred
by about 10 different names, and I don't see any option that allows for
more than one name per listener.
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From: Robert Uhl
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <m3bqzczuai.fsf@4dv.net>
····@mail.ru (Timofei Shatrov) writes:
>
> Is there a way to make all synonims work? My computer could be
> referred by about 10 different names, and I don't see any option that
> allows for more than one name per listener.
There's an option dealing with aliases or somesuch--look for that...
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Robert Uhl wrote: > ····@mail.ru (Timofei Shatrov) writes: > > > > Is
there a way to make all synonims work? My computer could be > >
referred by about 10 different names, and I don't see any option that >
> allows for more than one name per listener. > > There's an option dealing with aliases or somesuch--look for that... I don't actively read comp.lang.lisp at the moment, I really should --- it's where all the cool kids are. Here's the trouble you're running into: an HTTP-LISTENER listens on a socket, and sends requests to the root DISPATCHING-HANDLER (this is accessed through that (http-listener-handler *listener*) call). Dispatching handlers come in two varieties: dumb exact string matching and dumb exact string matching ignoring any trailing characters. When example.lisp sets up its hello world, it's looking for the string: http://yourhostnamehere:port/blah/blah/blah if you put in: http://127.0.0.1:port/blah/blah/blah That won't match anything. You can set up translators (no docs on this currently that I know of, I've just started going through the documentation for freshness) to translate a host and a port to something else. The reason why this hasn't been made much easier --- I mean, why doesn't Araneida by default just accept every host, and have facilities for easily defining new ones, etc, etc, etc? --- is because most people tend to use Araneida behind a proxy. When you do this, you can have the proxy rewrite the host before passing it on. That whole bit in the Apache config about ProxyPassReverse is what does that. Now, in the development version of Araneida I have changed things to where, if you do not specify a host in the match string, it will accept any host. This means you can do "/hello-world" and it will not care. In fact, in the new version of the tutorial that I'm currently working on, it uses this feature to avoid all the host matching bits entirely. I'm going to need some volunteers to go through the tutorial and see if it makes sense, eventually. I hope this answers at least a few of your questions, Alan
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <uzmn16y0r.fsf@agharta.de>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 13:01:31 +0100, Jens Teich <····@jensteich.de> wrote:
> I followed the instruction.html till this point
>
> ; SLIME 2005-11-07
> CL-USER> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'araneida)
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/araneida.asd into
> ; #<PACKAGE "ASDF4429">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM ARANEIDA {10BDA869}> as ARANEIDA
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/split-sequence.asd
> ; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4443">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM :SPLIT-SEQUENCE {4043E959}> as SPLIT-SEQUENCE
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/net-telent-date.asd
> ; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4445">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM NET-TELENT-DATE {405E7661}> as NET-TELENT-DATE
> NIL
> CL-USER> (load "Projekte/Lisp/araneida/doc/example.fasl")
> T
> CL-USER>
>
> but http://localhost:8000/ results in: The connection was refused ...
Hi Jens!
I don't use Araneida but from looking at the end of example.lisp code
I think you forgot this line:
(start-listening *listener*)
Cheers,
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Hi Edi,
I tried your tbnl too, but I'm not successful there too:
decoding error on stream
#<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
/Users/jens/Projekte/Lisp/tbnl-0.8.8/test/fz.jpg" {10F1B0B9}>
(:EXTERNAL-FORMAT :UTF-8):
the octet sequence (255 216 255 224) cannot be decoded.
[Condition of type SB-INT:STREAM-DECODING-ERROR]
Restarts:
0: [ATTEMPT-RESYNC] Attempt to resync the stream at a character
character boundary and continue.
1: [FORCE-END-OF-FILE] Force an end of file.
2: [RETRY] Retry performing #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {10005ED1}> on
#<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "test" {1023A9B9}>.
3: [ACCEPT] Continue, treating #<ASDF:LOAD-OP NIL {10005ED1}> on
#<ASDF:CL-SOURCE-FILE "test" {1023A9B9}> as having been successful.
4: [ABORT-REQUEST] Abort handling SLIME request.
5: [ABORT] Exit debugger, returning to top level.
Backtrace:
0: (SB-INT:STREAM-DECODING-ERROR #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
/Users/jens/Projekte/Lisp/tbnl-0.8.8/test/fz.jpg" {10F1B0B9}> (255 216
255 224))
Thanks
Jens
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <upsnxgp1w.fsf@agharta.de>
On 16 Dec 2005 05:07:27 -0800, "jteich" <····@jensteich.de> wrote:
> I tried your tbnl too, but I'm not successful there too:
>
> decoding error on stream
> #<SB-SYS:FD-STREAM for "file
> /Users/jens/Projekte/Lisp/tbnl-0.8.8/test/fz.jpg" {10F1B0B9}>
> (:EXTERNAL-FORMAT :UTF-8):
> the octet sequence (255 216 255 224) cannot be decoded.
> [Condition of type SB-INT:STREAM-DECODING-ERROR]
This has been discussed on the TBNL mailing list. Basically, TBNL
doesn't have very good support for SBCL's Unicode facilities because I
don't use SBCL and other users haven't provided a patch yet.
Having said that, the TBNL documentation links to a message which
describes how one user managed to make TBNL work with SBCL. Have you
tried that?
Cheers,
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I just looked up the link and it says:
.. add tbnl-bivalent-streams to features ..
what does this mean?
Jens
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <ud5jxgn08.fsf@agharta.de>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:53:55 +0100, Jens Teich <····@JensTeich.de> wrote:
> .. add tbnl-bivalent-streams to features ..
>
> what does this mean?
(push :tbnl-bivalent-streams *features*)
and then re-compile TBNL (i.e. delete the .fasl files and compile it
again).
See
<http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/practical-a-portable-pathname-library.html>
for an explanation of *FEATURES*.
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From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Newbie trying to install araneida webserver
Date:
Message-ID: <u8xulgm6n.fsf@agharta.de>
On Fri, 16 Dec 2005 14:16:27 +0100, Edi Weitz <········@agharta.de> wrote:
> This has been discussed on the TBNL mailing list. Basically, TBNL
> doesn't have very good support for SBCL's Unicode facilities because
> I don't use SBCL and other users haven't provided a patch yet.
FWIW, I've just uploaded an untested modification of TBNL (0.8.9)
which simply pushes :TBNL-BIVALENT-STREAMS on *FEATURES* if
:SB-UNICODE is present. I hope this works for all recent SBCL
releases.
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On 2005-12-16, Jens Teich <····@jensteich.de> wrote:
> I followed the instruction.html till this point
>
> ; SLIME 2005-11-07
> CL-USER> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'araneida)
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/araneida.asd into
> ; #<PACKAGE "ASDF4429">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM ARANEIDA {10BDA869}> as ARANEIDA
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/split-sequence.asd
> ; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4443">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM :SPLIT-SEQUENCE {4043E959}> as SPLIT-SEQUENCE
> ; loading system definition from /Users/jens/.sbcl/systems/net-telent-date.asd
> ; into #<PACKAGE "ASDF4445">
> ; registering #<SYSTEM NET-TELENT-DATE {405E7661}> as NET-TELENT-DATE
> NIL
> CL-USER> (load "Projekte/Lisp/araneida/doc/example.fasl")
> T
> CL-USER>
>
> but http://localhost:8000/ results in: The connection was refused ...
It's hidden. The installation.html doc says
> Oh, you wanted to be able to actually use it? Load Araneida with
>
> (require 'asdf)
> (asdf:operate 'asdf:load-op 'araneida)
>
> then compile and load doc/example.lisp in the source distribution.
> For more information, study that file carefully
If you go to the bottom of example.lisp, you'll find
> ;;; ready to rock?
> #|
> (start-listening *listener*)
>
> #+clisp (host-serve-events) ; starts listening under clisp
> |#
So: you probably forgot to run START-LISTENER.
Nice doc, eh? :)
-- Larry