From: Peter Seibel
Subject: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3zn1p55hg.fsf@javamonkey.com>
Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate
values?

-Peter

-- 
Peter Seibel                                      ·····@javamonkey.com

         Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp
From: William Bland
Subject: Re: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <pan.2004.11.11.05.26.47.957193@abstractnonsense.com>
On Thu, 11 Nov 2004 05:17:48 +0000, Peter Seibel wrote:

> Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
> falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate
> values?
> 
> -Peter

You've probably already seen it, but

http://www.dreamsongs.com/NewFiles/Hopl2.pdf

is a good reference for this.  As far as I can see, the answer is yes.

Cheers,
	Bill.
-- 
"If you give someone Fortran, he has Fortran. If you give someone Lisp,
he has any language he pleases." -- Guy Steele
From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <u3bzht051.fsf@news.dtpq.com>
Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> writes:

> Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
> falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate values?

No. MDL had that.
From: Peter Seibel
Subject: Re: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3vfcd545o.fsf@javamonkey.com>
······@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:

> Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> writes:
>
>> Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
>> falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate values?
>
> No. MDL had that.

Man, MDL had all kinds of stuff--didn't it also give us fancy lambda
lists? Anyone have a pointer to an on-line MDL manual?

-Peter

-- 
Peter Seibel                                      ·····@javamonkey.com

         Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp
From: Pascal Costanza
Subject: Re: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <cmva4d$56j$1@newsreader2.netcologne.de>
Peter Seibel wrote:
> ······@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
> 
>>Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> writes:
>>
>>>Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
>>>falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate values?
>>
>>No. MDL had that.
> 
> Man, MDL had all kinds of stuff--didn't it also give us fancy lambda
> lists? Anyone have a pointer to an on-line MDL manual?

There are three publications about MDL - technical reports 292, 293 and 
294 from the MIT Laboratory for Computer Science - that I have seen 
mentioned so far. However, they are not available as downloads yet. (I 
would expect them at http://www.lcs.mit.edu/publications/publications.php )

I am in contact with people at the MIT in order to get those reports 
published, but it seems to take some time. (Maybe someone with a better 
connection to the MIT than me can do something about it...)


Pascal

-- 
Tyler: "How's that working out for you?"
Jack: "Great."
Tyler: "Keep it up, then."
From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Did scheme introduce the #f/nil/() split?
Date: 
Message-ID: <ulld86vjx.fsf@news.dtpq.com>
Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> writes:

> ······@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
> 
> > Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> writes:
> >
> >> Was Scheme the first Lisp (or near-Lisp if you prefer) dialect to make
> >> falsehood, the symbol NIL, and the empty list into three separate values?
> >
> > No. MDL had that.
> 
> Man, MDL had all kinds of stuff--didn't it also give us fancy lambda
> lists? Anyone have a pointer to an on-line MDL manual?

It did (if you mean the &FOO frobbies).
comp.lang.lisp / 2004 / nov