From: Ufasoft company
Subject: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
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From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <u3c4th4i3.fsf@news.dtpq.com>
>>>>> On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:44:26 +0600, Ufasoft company ("Ufasoft") writes:

 Ufasoft> We present new version of Ufasoft Common Lisp (for Win32):
 Ufasoft> http://www.ufasoft.com/files/lisp_setup.exe
 Ufasoft> http://www.ufasoft.com/lisp

 Ufasoft> Includes console and IDE Lisp interpreter and
 Ufasoft> compiler. Possibility of creating EXE-files. Supports
 Ufasoft> CLOS. It is smallest implementation of standard Lisp, just
 Ufasoft> 1MB of binary code.

I took a chance and downloaded this and ran it.

The first the accessed my browser's Cookie database for some reason,
along with some other handles that seem a little odd I don't see
evidence that it gave me a cookie, though.  I've included here a
listing of what it had open at that moment.

When the Lisp Studio launched, it had a pane that 
looked like an interaction repl.  It just said

[1]>

But it would not let me type anything into the window.
All keystrokes were just echoed as beeps.
I closed that window, and choose "New" from the File menu.
That brought up a blank document pane that I could type into.
I entered a few trivial Lisp expressions (a DEFVAR and a DEFUN)
and selected "Run" from the menu.  A message immediately popped 
up saying something about "general protection fault" or something, 
and then the application closed up.

There is a Help window, but the only documentation there is a 
listing of Lisp symbols and documentation copied from somewhere.

Seems unlikley that it's a virus, but maybe this 
program isn't quite ready for prime time yet.

I de-installed it.

The license gives you a 14 day trial, then you can buy it for $49.

Didn't I see this product being advertised a while back?
The web site didn't have any information about who the
authors are, or any other information about the product.
There is an email address to which support requests can be sent.


PID	Process	Description	CPU	Priority	Working Set	Threads	Window Title	CPU Time	Company Name	Path	Version	Command Line
13152	lispdev.exe	LispStudio		8	34,756 K	5	Lisp	0:00:01.782	Ufasoft	K:\Program Files\Ufasoft\Lisp\lispdev.exe	3.02.0007.0006	"K:\Program Files\Ufasoft\Lisp\LispDev.exe"

Process: lispdev.exe Pid: 13152

Type	Name
Desktop	\Default
Directory	\KnownDlls
Directory	\Windows
Directory	\BaseNamedObjects
Event	\BaseNamedObjects\userenv:  User Profile setup event
Event	\BaseNamedObjects\crypt32LogoffEvent
File	\Device\KsecDD
File	K:\TEMP\CStacy\cabE2.tmp
File	\Device\KsecDD
File	L:\CStacy Temporary Internet Files\Temporary Internet Files\Content.IE5\index.dat
File	C:\Documents and Settings\CStacy\Cookies\index.dat
File	C:\Documents and Settings\CStacy\Local Settings\History\History.IE5\index.dat
Key	HKCU\SOFTWARE\Ufasoft\Lisp
Key	HKCU\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\WINDOWS NT\CURRENTVERSION\Windows
Key	HKCU\SOFTWARE\Ufasoft\Lisp
Key	HKCR
Key	HKCU\Software\Classes
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKU
Key	HKCR
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKU
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKCR\CLSID
Key	HKCR
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKU
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\COM3
Key	HKCR\CLSID
Key	HKCU\Software\Classes
Key	HKLM
Key	HKCU
Key	HKCU\Software\Classes
Key	HKCR\CLSID
Key	HKLM\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\Windows\CURRENTVERSION\Explorer
Key	HKCU\SOFTWARE\MICROSOFT\Windows\CURRENTVERSION\Internet Settings
Key	HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WinSock2\Parameters\Protocol_Catalog9
Key	HKLM\SYSTEM\ControlSet001\Services\WinSock2\Parameters\NameSpace_Catalog5
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\_!MSFTHISTORY!_
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\l:!cstacy temporary internet files!temporary internet files!content.ie5!
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\c:!documents and settings!cstacy!cookies!
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\c:!documents and settings!cstacy!local settings!history!history.ie5!
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\WininetStartupMutex
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\WininetConnectionMutex
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\WininetProxyRegistryMutex
Mutant	\BaseNamedObjects\opdirect_mutex
Port	\RPC Control\OLE3360579AD882406281FEF930BDC3
Section	\BaseNamedObjects\__R_0000000000dd_SMem__
Section	\BaseNamedObjects\L:_CStacy Temporary Internet Files_Temporary Internet Files_Content.IE5_index.dat_3981312
Section	\BaseNamedObjects\C:_Documents and Settings_CStacy_Local Settings_History_History.IE5_index.dat_425984
Section	\BaseNamedObjects\C:_Documents and Settings_CStacy_Cookies_index.dat_196608
Section	\BaseNamedObjects\OCRAWARE_MAP_OBJECT
Semaphore	\BaseNamedObjects\shell.{210A4BA0-3AEA-1069-A2D9-08002B30309D}
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13092
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13284
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13092
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13260
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13092
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13164
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13164
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13164
Thread	lispdev.exe(13152): 13164
WindowStation	\Windows\WindowStations\WinSta0
WindowStation	\Windows\WindowStations\WinSta0
From: Ari Johnson
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <OmuAc.2143$5t2.1735@fed1read01>
Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
>>>>>>On Fri, 18 Jun 2004 07:44:26 +0600, Ufasoft company ("Ufasoft") writes:
> 
> 
>  Ufasoft> We present new version of Ufasoft Common Lisp (for Win32):
>  Ufasoft> http://www.ufasoft.com/files/lisp_setup.exe
>  Ufasoft> http://www.ufasoft.com/lisp
> 
>  Ufasoft> Includes console and IDE Lisp interpreter and
>  Ufasoft> compiler. Possibility of creating EXE-files. Supports
>  Ufasoft> CLOS. It is smallest implementation of standard Lisp, just
>  Ufasoft> 1MB of binary code.
> 
> I took a chance and downloaded this and ran it.
> 
> The first the accessed my browser's Cookie database for some reason,
> along with some other handles that seem a little odd I don't see
> evidence that it gave me a cookie, though.  I've included here a
> listing of what it had open at that moment.
> 
> When the Lisp Studio launched, it had a pane that 
> looked like an interaction repl.  It just said
> 
> [1]>
> 
> But it would not let me type anything into the window.
> All keystrokes were just echoed as beeps.
> I closed that window, and choose "New" from the File menu.
> That brought up a blank document pane that I could type into.
> I entered a few trivial Lisp expressions (a DEFVAR and a DEFUN)
> and selected "Run" from the menu.  A message immediately popped 
> up saying something about "general protection fault" or something, 
> and then the application closed up.
> 
> There is a Help window, but the only documentation there is a 
> listing of Lisp symbols and documentation copied from somewhere.
> 
> Seems unlikley that it's a virus, but maybe this 
> program isn't quite ready for prime time yet.
> 
> I de-installed it.
> 
> The license gives you a 14 day trial, then you can buy it for $49.
> 
> Didn't I see this product being advertised a while back?
> The web site didn't have any information about who the
> authors are, or any other information about the product.
> There is an email address to which support requests can be sent.

I gave it a shot and managed to compile a Hello, World! program to a 
.exe, which weighed in at 1MB.  You shouldn't close the REPL window, as 
it is apparently called upon by the Run and Compile commands, hence your 
GPF.
From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <uwu25fpc9.fsf@news.dtpq.com>
>>>>> On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:40:34 -0700, Ari Johnson ("Ari") writes:
 Ari> I gave it a shot and managed to compile a Hello, World! program
 Ari> to a .exe, which weighed in at 1MB.  You shouldn't close the
 Ari> REPL window, as it is apparently called upon by the Run and
 Ari> Compile commands, hence your GPF.

It's not really a REPL, though, is it?  I couldn't type anything 
into it, which is why I opened the other window in the first place.

Is this implementation based on some other implementation
we know, or is it all new?
From: Ari Johnson
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <VHuAc.2149$5t2.465@fed1read01>
Christopher C. Stacy wrote:
>>>>>>On Thu, 17 Jun 2004 21:40:34 -0700, Ari Johnson ("Ari") writes:
> 
>  Ari> I gave it a shot and managed to compile a Hello, World! program
>  Ari> to a .exe, which weighed in at 1MB.  You shouldn't close the
>  Ari> REPL window, as it is apparently called upon by the Run and
>  Ari> Compile commands, hence your GPF.
> 
> It's not really a REPL, though, is it?  I couldn't type anything 
> into it, which is why I opened the other window in the first place.
> 
> Is this implementation based on some other implementation
> we know, or is it all new?

It's a REPL.  There's an entry line at the bottom of the window you were 
trying to type into.  The up-arrow even takes you to previous commands, 
but down-arrow goes one character to the right each time until it gets 
to the end of the line, and then it goes to the next command in the history.

It's certainly not very polished.
From: Lars Brinkhoff
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <85ekodgze9.fsf@junk.nocrew.org>
······@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
> Is [Ufasoft Common Lisp] based on some other implementation we know,
> or is it all new?

It has been listed here for some time, so I guess it's not that new:
http://alu.cliki.net/implementation

-- 
Lars Brinkhoff,         Services for Unix, Linux, GCC, HTTP
Brinkhoff Consulting    http://www.brinkhoff.se/
From: Paolo Amoroso
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <87pt7xork7.fsf@plato.moon.paoloamoroso.it>
······@news.dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:

> Didn't I see this product being advertised a while back?

I first saw it announced here some time ago.


Paolo
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From: Christophe Rhodes
Subject: Re: Ufasoft Common Lisp 3.2.7 released (for Win32):
Date: 
Message-ID: <sq659pw6v8.fsf@cam.ac.uk>
"Ufasoft company" <······@ufasoft.com> writes:

> We present new version of Ufasoft Common Lisp (for Win32):

So, it's not Free software, and it doesn't run on Unix.  Nothing wrong
with that per se, but why then was www.cliki.net[*] spammed with
information about it?  Please don't do that.

Christophe

[*] Just in case anyone is in any doubt: from
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  and available on Unix-like systems. Listed software should satisfy
  the Debian Free Software Guidelines (DFSG).
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