From: neo88
Subject: Lisp Graphics (GUI or Console-based) in Linux??
Date: 
Message-ID: <6a73bb68.0407111528.45de1d82@posting.google.com>
Hi guys
If your are reading this, thanks once again for indulging a newbie :)
I recently purchesed Allegro CL for Windows and Linux, and I noticed
that when I ran it in windows, it would give me the (CG-User) package.
CG for Common Graphics User. It boots into that automatically, you
have to manually switch to CL User. Anyways, when in CG User mode, you
have a little thing called Interpet and a Form. It looks a lot like VB
6 or something similar to that. I thought that this was kind of neat,
although I really dislike such environments usually. Previously, I
didn't think that Lisp was capable of graphics GUI or otherwise, but I
guess it is.
My question is: Does Linux have a CG User type mode? I haven't
installed Allegro on my Linux box yet, and wanted to know if it does
have CG User mode (or some similar) before I install it.  I don't
really like the whole VB-like environment though, as I said, and would
like to know if there is any way to create windows and such without
the Interpet program or a form. Most of my apps will be written in
Linux, and I want to do a little AI project that would require the
loading of some bitmaps or JPEGs. Can Lisp load graphics formats?
Maybe this is kind of advanced stuff for a n00b to be asking, but I
just want to have an idea of what I'll be getting myself into here
first though.
Thanks again if you are reading this, and got this far :)

May the Source be with you.
neo88 (Philip Haddad)

From: neo88
Subject: Re: Lisp Graphics (GUI or Console-based) in Linux??
Date: 
Message-ID: <6a73bb68.0407121232.57c03a3@posting.google.com>
······@truevine.net (neo88) wrote in message news:<····························@posting.google.com

> I recently purchesed Allegro CL for Windows and Linux

In case you were thinking that the questions were coming from a warez
copy, I assure you they were not. I purchased (only cost was shipping
and handling) the Trail Edtion of Allegro. I know that the mainstream
edtion has it's own extensive documentation, however, the trail edtion
does not have any. I looked on http://www.franz.com/ for any
documentation, but could not find any relating to Interpet or
GUI-based apps in Lisp. Sorry I didn't make that clear in my first
post :(

May the Source be with you.
neo88 (Philip Haddad)
From: Matthew Danish
Subject: Re: Lisp Graphics (GUI or Console-based) in Linux??
Date: 
Message-ID: <Pine.LNX.4.58-035.0407121649120.4288@unix45.andrew.cmu.edu>
On Mon, 12 Jul 2004, neo88 wrote:
> I looked on http://www.franz.com/ for any documentation, but could not
> find any relating to Interpet or GUI-based apps in Lisp.

You didn't look in the support section, then.

http://www.franz.com/support/documentation/6.2/doc/introduction.htm
From: Edi Weitz
Subject: Re: Lisp Graphics (GUI or Console-based) in Linux??
Date: 
Message-ID: <87pt712bjk.fsf@bird.agharta.de>
On 12 Jul 2004 13:32:17 -0700, ······@truevine.net (neo88) wrote:

> ······@truevine.net (neo88) wrote in message news:<····························@posting.google.com
>
>> I recently purchesed Allegro CL for Windows and Linux
>
> In case you were thinking that the questions were coming from a
> warez copy,

I certainly thought that... :)

> I assure you they were not. I purchased (only cost was shipping and
> handling) the Trail Edtion of Allegro. I know that the mainstream
> edtion has it's own extensive documentation, however, the trail
> edtion does not have any. I looked on http://www.franz.com/ for any
> documentation, but could not find any relating to Interpet or
> GUI-based apps in Lisp.

The complete docs are available online:

  <http://www.franz.com/support/documentation/>

I don't think you'll get more if you buy one of the commercial
editions. Search for "Common Graphics" if you're interested in
GUI-based apps. I don't know what you mean by "Interpet."

You might also want to download the LispWorks trial edition[1] - their
CAPI library allows you to write cross-platform GUI apps for Linux,
Mac OS X, and Windows. Here are some apps written with the CAPI
toolkit:

  <http://www.rocketdownload.com/details/Self/6724.htm>
  <http://www.netfonds.no/pt.php>
  <http://weitz.de/regex-coach/> (shameless, I know)

Cheers,
Edi.

[1] <http://www.lispworks.com/>

-- 

"Lisp doesn't look any deader than usual to me."
(David Thornley, reply to a question older than most languages)

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From: James Baker
Subject: Re: Lisp Graphics (GUI or Console-based) in Linux??
Date: 
Message-ID: <fb731eb3.0407151343.70ee6f88@posting.google.com>
To get back to the original topic, I too have the question of whether
anything graphical can be written under ACL 6.2 Linux.

I am porting a ACL-Windows application to Linux, and while it is
generally not Windows-specific, there exists a call to
cg:invoke-html-browser.  So far I've been under the impression that
ACL-Linux just had no common-graphics-user package and that all that
functionality was unavailible.

But I can't be the first user to want something from the CG package
under Linux!  If someone knows anything about this, please inform.  If
my assumption is correct about CG not existing at all under linux,
does someone know how to trigger a web browser in a different way? 
How about a call to run an external shell script?

Thanks,
James