From: Michiel Borkent
Subject: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <c138nf$id4$1@ares.cs.utwente.nl>
Hi,
I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book of Peter Norvig:
Paradigms of AI programming.
I am using Win2k - which LISP should I use and where can I download it?

Gr,
Michiel
From: Will Hartung
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <c13h8a$1eedr2$2@ID-197644.news.uni-berlin.de>
"Michiel Borkent" <·······@cs.utwente.nl> wrote in message
·················@ares.cs.utwente.nl...
> Hi,
> I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book of Peter Norvig:
> Paradigms of AI programming.
> I am using Win2k - which LISP should I use and where can I download it?

I like the one you can find on Google...

Regards,

Will Hartung
(·····@msoft.com)
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <LJ9Zb.60636$Lp.56834@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Michiel Borkent wrote:
> Hi,
> I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book of Peter Norvig:
> Paradigms of AI programming.
> I am using Win2k - which LISP should I use and where can I download it?

I like the AllegroCL IDE (see franz.com). Others like Lispworks (see 
lispworks.com). Consider also Corman Common Lisp.

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From: Henrik Motakef
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <86eksq3fyl.fsf@pokey.internal.henrik-motakef.de>
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:

> I like the AllegroCL IDE (see franz.com). Others like Lispworks (see
> lispworks.com). Consider also Corman Common Lisp.

Or maybe CLISP, perhaps with the Jabberwocky IDE. Or maybe even ECL or
GCL.

In general, see <http://alu.cliki.net/implementation> and
<http://www.cliki.net/Common%20Lisp%20implementation>. Which one is
best for you depends on many factors, to just play with CL a little,
they all should be OK.

You probably won't get a consensus about the best Lisp for Windows
here or anywhere else. All that have been mentioned are at least free
to try, so make up your own mind.
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <40353AC1.4060409@nyc.rr.com>
Henrik Motakef wrote:
> Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>I like the AllegroCL IDE (see franz.com). Others like Lispworks (see
>>lispworks.com). Consider also Corman Common Lisp.
> 
> 
> Or maybe CLISP, perhaps with the Jabberwocky IDE. Or maybe even ECL or
> GCL.
> 
> In general, see <http://alu.cliki.net/implementation> and
> <http://www.cliki.net/Common%20Lisp%20implementation>. Which one is
> best for you depends on many factors, to just play with CL a little,
> they all should be OK.
> 
> You probably won't get a consensus about the best Lisp for Windows
> here or anywhere else. All that have been mentioned are at least free
> to try, so make up your own mind.

I think a newbie should stay with a polished IDE available thru a 
painless install, such as (my preferred order) AllegroCL, Lispworks, and 
Corman.

Then, yes, there are other alternatives to consider once they decide 
they are in for the long haul.

kenny

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From: Andreas Yankopolus
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <20040227113733351-0500@atl.news.speakeasy.net>
Michiel,

> I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book
> of Peter Norvig: Paradigms of AI programming.
> I am using Win2k - which LISP should I use and where
> can I download it?

I'm using CLISP (http://clisp.cons.org/) on my W2K box at work and 
running it as an Emacs subprocess with Ilisp. Ilisp improves on Emacs' 
built-in communications facilities with a Lisp subprocess. Be forewarned 
that configuring this combination is no walk in the park. There's some 
good info at http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/windows.html

Cheers,

Andreas
From: John Thingstad
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <opr31f17zoxfnb1n@news.chello.no>
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004 10:37:41 -0600, Andreas Yankopolus 
<·······@nospam.yank.to> wrote:

> Michiel,
>
>> I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book
>> of Peter Norvig: Paradigms of AI programming.
>> I am using Win2k - which LISP should I use and where
>> can I download it?
>
> I'm using CLISP (http://clisp.cons.org/) on my W2K box at work and
> running it as an Emacs subprocess with Ilisp. Ilisp improves on Emacs'
> built-in communications facilities with a Lisp subprocess. Be forewarned
> that configuring this combination is no walk in the park. There's some
> good info at http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/windows.html
>
> Cheers,
>
> Andreas

I use Corman Lisp. www.cormanlisp.com.
This is a compiled lisp. windows and 80x86/7 spesific and quite fast.
Why don't you try it the trial is for free. I went on to develop a emacs 
IDE long after the IDE timed out.
The runtime is for free.

John

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From: Miroslaw Osys
Subject: Re: What LISP environment to use with Win2k?
Date: 
Message-ID: <a8aadb45.0402280842.3c15023f@posting.google.com>
Norvig book could be too advanced for learning LISP.
I suggest "Lisp" by Winston, Horn
or "ANSI Common Lisp" by Graham.
Also search for web tutors.

Regards

"Michiel Borkent" <·······@cs.utwente.nl> wrote in message news:<············@ares.cs.utwente.nl>...
> Hi,
> I am new to LISP and want to learn it using the book of Peter Norvig:
> Paradigms of AI programming.
comp.lang.lisp / 2004 / feb