Hello --
I'd like to install LispWorks on Debian Woody. I realise there's a
package from Kevin Rosenberg (lw-installer), but it's not on stable.
I was wondering if anyone has succesfully installed LispWorks on
Debian and how they did.
Unfortunately, their "Linux" version is not for "Linux", it's for
RedHat (actually, that would be Fedora now, I guess). BTW, that seems
like a bad marketing choice IMHO because it seems lisp developers
prefer Debian.
Thanks in advance.
Best regards,
Henry
···········@uol.com.br (EL Henry) wrote in message news:<····························@posting.google.com>...
> Hello --
>
> I'd like to install LispWorks on Debian Woody. I realise there's a
> package from Kevin Rosenberg (lw-installer), but it's not on stable.
> I was wondering if anyone has succesfully installed LispWorks on
> Debian and how they did.
> Unfortunately, their "Linux" version is not for "Linux", it's for
> RedHat (actually, that would be Fedora now, I guess). BTW, that seems
> like a bad marketing choice IMHO because it seems lisp developers
> prefer Debian.
As far as I know the LW linux version comes as either an RPM or a tar
file, and the tar file is, well, just a tar file: you read it back and
there's a binary in there. Now, of coure, because this is Linux, it
won't actually run if the system is more than about 2 years old
because they keep fucking with libc, but that's presumably the same
with any Linux, and not really Xanalys's fault. I imagine it will
just work on a recent debian.
As for `most Lisp developers prefer debian': the question is really
which version the people who are likely to buy licenses prefer. My
guess is that that's overwhelmingly RH-derived distributions, though I
could be wrong.
··········@tfeb.org (Tim Bradshaw) writes:
> there's a binary in there. Now, of coure, because this is Linux, it
> won't actually run if the system is more than about 2 years old
> because they keep fucking with libc, but that's presumably the same
> with any Linux, and not really Xanalys's fault. I imagine it will
> just work on a recent debian.
Well, you can even hack your way around and make it work with really
old libc's (by linking in an alternate libc).
BTW: Debian actually _fixed_ their version (in 2.3.1-8) of the new
libc so LW 4.2 will work with steaming hot unstable debian, but not
with recent versions of other distros.
--
(espen)
··········@tfeb.org (Tim Bradshaw) wrote in message news:<····························@posting.google.com>...
> ···········@uol.com.br (EL Henry) wrote in message news:<····························@posting.google.com>...
> > Hello --
> >
> > I'd like to install LispWorks on Debian Woody. I realise there's a
> > package from Kevin Rosenberg (lw-installer), but it's not on stable.
> > I was wondering if anyone has succesfully installed LispWorks on
> > Debian and how they did.
(...)
> As far as I know the LW linux version comes as either an RPM or a tar
> file, and the tar file is, well, just a tar file: you read it back and
> there's a binary in there. Now, of coure, because this is Linux, it
> won't actually run if the system is more than about 2 years old
> because they keep fucking with libc, but that's presumably the same
> with any Linux, and not really Xanalys's fault. I imagine it will
> just work on a recent debian.
Thanks to all of you for the help.
I keep getting "obsolete base64 headers", and I think your analysis
might be right. One of these days I'll freak out completely and try
FreeBSD.
It's probably a kernel thang on a fresh Woody install.
I`ll keep the faith.
Regs,
Henry
>>>>> "ELH" == EL Henry <···········@uol.com.br> writes:
ELH> ... I was wondering if
ELH> anyone has succesfully installed LispWorks on Debian and how
ELH> they did.
I used it several times to install lw-pro in a testing/unstable system.
I had only one problem a while back but KMR fixed that before I had a
chance to file a bug report (the installer deb downloads and installs
patches after cheking the lw site is reachable but was it assuming icmp
echo wouldn't be firewalled somewhere). No wonder Kevin M. Rosenberg is
almost always right at/near the top in the list below:
http://www.debian.gr.jp/~kitame/maint.cgi
ELH> Unfortunately, their "Linux" version is not for
ELH> "Linux", it's for RedHat (actually, that would be Fedora now,
ELH> I guess). BTW, that seems like a bad marketing choice IMHO
ELH> because it seems lisp developers prefer Debian.
They probably tell you what versions of libraries they expect in a
readme somewhere so you can make sure you can run it on any linux
system with a reasonable amount of effort. I have _never_ used redhat
and I have never had any problems with running commercial/trial lisps
on my Linux machines since Allegro 4.3 (or was it 4.2 they sent for
the asking in the late 90s?).
Lisp vendors could/should probably add links to the debian package
pages for Debian installers of their products so prospective users can
check for themselves.
cheers,
BM
···········@uol.com.br (EL Henry) writes:
> Hello --
>
> I'd like to install LispWorks on Debian Woody. I realise there's a
> package from Kevin Rosenberg (lw-installer), but it's not on stable.
> I was wondering if anyone has succesfully installed LispWorks on
> Debian and how they did.
I run LispWorks professional edition of a Knoppix (i.e. debian unstable)
box. It complains about a mismatched version of the Motif library,
but apart from that, it all runs fine.
What problems exactly are you experiencing?
Alain Picard <·································@memetrics.com> writes:
> I run LispWorks professional edition of a Knoppix (i.e. debian unstable)
> box. It complains about a mismatched version of the Motif library,
> but apart from that, it all runs fine.
I have no problems at all LW 4.2 on both unstable and woody. LW 4.3
complains about the old motif library when I run it on woody (with
libmotif, i.e. OpenMotif, installed), but it actually runs fine.
On unstable, I have installed the newer OpenMotif (apt-get install
libmotif3), and then 4.3 runs without any complaints.
--
(espen)
Espen Vestre <·····@*do-not-spam-me*.vestre.net> writes:
> On unstable, I have installed the newer OpenMotif (apt-get install
> libmotif3), and then 4.3 runs without any complaints.
That works a treat. Thanks!