I would like to learn what the Lisp language can do. I program in
other languages. I have looked on the web for about 4 to 5 hours over
the last couple of days looking at online resources and book
recommendations. If you have time, please recommend how I can get
started.
What Lisp compiler do you recommend me trying to get up to speed on to
see what the language offers? How do I download it? If possible can I
get it for free?
I have tried to go to the GNU CLisp web site, but was not smart enough
to be able to see how to download it. I am used to a download now type
of option.
Is there a book I can download or buy that will lead me by the hand on
installing a compiler and then learning the language?
Thanks for your time.
Signed
Newbie want-to-be.
You haven't stated what OS you are running on.
The two defacto standard implementations are Allegro Common Lisp
(www.franz.com) and LispWorks (www.lispworks.com). I personally use
LispWorks because I find it more pleasant to use and easier to
navigate, but others like Franz for the same reasons.
Both work on Windows, Linux and OS X. However, both are commercial
implementations (with free personal versions to try indefinitely).
There may be some things you like in one that the other doesn't have
(like AllegroServe in Franz), but they are both *very* good
implementations.
For Win32, there is also Corman Lisp (www.cormanlisp.com). A very good
(although not 100% ANS compliant) Lisp. The best feature of Corman Lisp
is that it comes with the source code to build itself. This is one of
the best ways to learn (IMO) and it is how I learned Lisp. It does have
its limitations, though, and I have since moved on to LispWorks.
Others here can speak better about the free implementations (like
CLISP) than I. I don't, and have never used them.
As for books, there are several good ones, one even just released, and
one in the works now that will be released soon:
ANSI Common Lisp by Paul Graham
Successful Lisp by David B. Lamkins
Practical Common Lisp by Peter Seibel
The last one is even available online at www.gigamonkeys.com/book.
Highly recommended reading. And should you have any questions, Peter
frequents this newsgroup :)
HTH,
Jeff M.
[··············@austin.rr.com" <·············@austin.rr.com>, 24 Dec 2004 10:15:31 -0800]:
> What Lisp compiler do you recommend me trying to get up to speed on to
> see what the language offers? How do I download it? If possible can I
> get it for free?
Assuming you are on Windows (or Linux), "Lisp in a box"
(http://common-lisp.net/project/lispbox/) might be the right thing for
you; it seems to be trivial to install, though I have never used it
myself; it is also free and, it seems, for free.
> Is there a book I can download or buy that will lead me by the hand on
> installing a compiler and then learning the language?
Have a look at the draft of a soon-to-be-published book at
<http://www.gigamonkeys.com/book/>.
And be sure to bookmark the language standard at, e.g.,
<http://clhs.lisp.se/> (or elsewhere, ask Google).
Regards,
Albert.
··············@austin.rr.com" <·············@austin.rr.com> writes:
> I would like to learn what the Lisp language can do. I program in
> other languages. I have looked on the web for about 4 to 5 hours over
> the last couple of days looking at online resources and book
> recommendations. If you have time, please recommend how I can get
> started.
http://cliki.net/
http://www.cliki.net/Education
From ············@irc.freenode.org/#lisp :
A quick guide to getting set up to learn Common Lisp,
the #lisp way: http://www.unmutual.info/startingwithcl.html
> I have tried to go to the GNU CLisp web site, but was not smart enough
> to be able to see how to download it. I am used to a download now type
> of option.
Assuming we're speaking of the same page: http://clisp.cons.org/,
it shows a nice and engaging:
Welcome to CLISP
title, followed my a sentence indicating what is clisp:
This is GNU CLISP - an ANSI Common Lisp Implementation
next, an icon, and the current version of clisp:
Current version: 2.33.2 (2004-06-02)
and finally, a table with two columns entitled:
About CLISP Get CLISP
Do we need to be rocket scientists to infer that downloading clisp
will be done by browsing the "Get CLISP" column? Perhaps... Anyway,
in this "Get CLISP" column, after links to the "Home" of clisp, you
find 4 links entitled:
Sources and binaries for various platforms
Well, I don't know you, but what I want to download usually are the
sources (and sometimes the binaries). I think you should try to click
on one of those links...
--
__Pascal Bourguignon__ http://www.informatimago.com/
There is no worse tyranny than to force a man to pay for what he does not
want merely because you think it would be good for him. -- Robert Heinlein
·············@austin.rr.com wrote:
> I would like to learn what the Lisp language can do. I program in
> other languages. I have looked on the web for about 4 to 5 hours over
> the last couple of days looking at online resources and book
> recommendations. If you have time, please recommend how I can get
> started.
>
> What Lisp compiler do you recommend me trying to get up to speed on to
> see what the language offers? How do I download it? If possible can I
> get it for free?
>
> I have tried to go to the GNU CLisp web site, but was not smart enough
> to be able to see how to download it. I am used to a download now type
> of option.
>
Try this link if you are using Windows or MaxOSX. If you can't get it to
work using these instructions, probably best if you give up.
http://cl-cookbook.sourceforge.net/windows.html
Huy