From: tony
Subject: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <34175232.0311121309.44ca75d9@posting.google.com>
nearly newbie programmer, definately new to the lisp thang, but am
beginning to see the beauty of it all kind of a person.  i'm reading
some documentation to bring me up to speed on the .NET environment for
work.  i know, but i have to pay my mortgage...  and i'm reading about
the I/O system and reading about streams and such and i'm thinking
about LISP and some of the other languages i know, specifically Perl,
and the things i know about programming in general and the thought
occurred to me that the developers of LISP really really have done
a phenomenal job on developing the LISP paradigm.  way cool.  i look
forward to the "aha" moment that i know is to come and the impact i've
been lead to believe will occur with it.

just a comment...

peace

From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <oExsb.156560$pT1.12040@twister.nyc.rr.com>
tony wrote:
> nearly newbie programmer, definately new to the lisp thang, but am
> beginning to see the beauty of it all kind of a person.  i'm reading
> some documentation to bring me up to speed on the .NET environment for
> work.  i know, but i have to pay my mortgage...  and i'm reading about
> the I/O system and reading about streams and such and i'm thinking
> about LISP and some of the other languages i know, specifically Perl,
> and the things i know about programming in general and the thought
> occurred to me that the developers of LISP really really have done
> a phenomenal job on developing the LISP paradigm.  way cool.  i look
> forward to the "aha" moment that i know is to come and the impact i've
> been lead to believe will occur with it.
> 
> just a comment...

<pounce>
Thx for the note. When/if the time seems right, plz consider adding to a 
newby survey I started, which you can reach in a few clicks from the 
highlight film in my sig.
</pounce>

kenny

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From: Anthony Ventimiglia
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <87llqk3k60.fsf@afghan.dogpound>
·······@yahoo.com (tony) writes:

> nearly newbie programmer, definately new to the lisp thang, but am
> beginning to see the beauty of it all kind of a person.  i'm reading
> some documentation to bring me up to speed on the .NET environment for
> work.  i know, but i have to pay my mortgage...  and i'm reading about
> the I/O system and reading about streams and such and i'm thinking
> about LISP and some of the other languages i know, specifically Perl,
> and the things i know about programming in general and the thought
> occurred to me that the developers of LISP really really have done
> a phenomenal job on developing the LISP paradigm.  way cool.  i look
> forward to the "aha" moment that i know is to come and the impact i've
> been lead to believe will occur with it.
> 

Welcome, please enjoy your flight.

In my experience, once the "aha's" start, they may start to stream
in. If you're not careful, you may end up wanting to use Lisp for just
about everything.

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From: tony
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <34175232.0311130844.e446d1e@posting.google.com>
Anthony Ventimiglia <······························@spam.dev.null> wrote in message news:<··············@afghan.dogpound>...
> ·······@yahoo.com (tony) writes:
> 
> > nearly newbie programmer, definately new to the lisp thang, but am
> > beginning to see the beauty of it all kind of a person.  i'm reading
> > some documentation to bring me up to speed on the .NET environment for
> > work.  i know, but i have to pay my mortgage...  and i'm reading about
> > the I/O system and reading about streams and such and i'm thinking
> > about LISP and some of the other languages i know, specifically Perl,
> > and the things i know about programming in general and the thought
> > occurred to me that the developers of LISP really really have done
> > a phenomenal job on developing the LISP paradigm.  way cool.  i look
> > forward to the "aha" moment that i know is to come and the impact i've
> > been lead to believe will occur with it.
> > 
> 
> Welcome, please enjoy your flight.
> 
> In my experience, once the "aha's" start, they may start to stream
> in. If you're not careful, you may end up wanting to use Lisp for just
> about everything.


am already there (wanting to use Lisp for just about everything), just
don't have enough overall programming experience and not nearly enough
Lisp experience...  but expect to get there soon.  one can only hope.

peace
From: Joe Marshall
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <vfpoe32v.fsf@ccs.neu.edu>
Anthony Ventimiglia <······························@spam.dev.null> writes:

> In my experience, once the "aha's" start, they may start to stream
> in.  If you're not careful, you may end up wanting to use Lisp for just
> about everything.

On the other hand, this is rarely a technical problem.
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
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Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)

Doesn't matter. We'll be cheerful all winter thinking about Grady Little 
serving us roasted Pedro on a silver platter in the bottom of the 
eighth, and Aaron Boone's blast floating up into the night sky  to 
lead-off the eleventh.

I'm smiling now. <g>

kenny


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From: Jon S. Anthony
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
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Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:

> Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
> (incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
> 
> Doesn't matter.

Tell that to George.

> I'm smiling now. <g>

(incf *yankees-world-series-loser*) ; :-)


/Jon
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: OT: No Joy In Beantown [was Re: just a comment from a...]
Date: 
Message-ID: <DCNsb.87048$ri.13987270@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Jon S. Anthony wrote:
> Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
>>(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
>>
>>Doesn't matter.
> 
> 
> Tell that to George.

George is unhappy? All the better!

:)

kt

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From: Anthony Ventimiglia
Subject: Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <87ad6zjcp9.fsf@afghan.dogpound>
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:

> Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
> (incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
> 
> Doesn't matter. We'll be cheerful all winter thinking about Grady
> Little serving us roasted Pedro on a silver platter in the bottom of
> the eighth, and Aaron Boone's blast floating up into the night sky  to
> lead-off the eleventh.
> 
> I'm smiling now. <g>
> 
> kenny

First it's cute how you assume (wrongly) that I'm a Red Sox Fan.

Then It's cute how you talk about Aaron Boone who did so much to help
the Marlins win.

Me, I just keep laughing at all those AL idiots who had no idea how
many ways the Marlins would kick your ass. What were they all saying ?
That's right Yankees in Six.

-- 
(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
From: Jon S. Anthony
Subject: OT, was Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3ad6zovkl.fsf_-_@rigel.goldenthreadtech.com>
Anthony Ventimiglia <······························@spam.dev.null> writes:

> Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> > ...
...
>
 What were they all saying ?  That's right Yankees in Six.

Actually, I had the Marlins in 4.  Too bad that didn't work out
:). The Yankees were already dead in G7ALCS, Grady simply ignored all
his advisors and Pedro and decided to give them an unprecedented level
of CPR.


> Me, I just keep laughing at all those AL idiots who had no idea how
> many ways the Marlins would kick your ass.

Maybe, but the Sox did beat them 25-8 earlier, ;)


/Jon

"Just waite 'till next year!!"
From: Anthony Ventimiglia
Subject: Re: OT, was Re: just a comment from a...
Date: 
Message-ID: <87r80ais06.fsf@afghan.dogpound>
·········@rcn.com (Jon S. Anthony) writes:

> Anthony Ventimiglia <······························@spam.dev.null> writes:
> 
> > Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> > > ...
> ...
> >
>  What were they all saying ?  That's right Yankees in Six.
> 
> Actually, I had the Marlins in 4.  Too bad that didn't work out
> :). The Yankees were already dead in G7ALCS, Grady simply ignored all
> his advisors and Pedro and decided to give them an unprecedented level
> of CPR.

Yes the Yankees fans don't seem to realize that Grady Little won the
ALCS for them, it's really a miracle the Red Sox made it that far with
all the bad decisions Little made.

> > Me, I just keep laughing at all those AL idiots who had no idea how
> > many ways the Marlins would kick your ass.
> 
> Maybe, but the Sox did beat them 25-8 earlier, ;)

The Sox had a much better chance of beating the Marlins, it would have
been a better series.

To be honest with you I'm a Mets fan, but I wanted to see Boston and
Chicago, just because it would have been a killer series. 

But basically when the playoffs started I had to not like Atlanta,
because all they do is lose in the postseason (I think they should
make an ML rule to not allow them into the playoffs).

For some reason I just can't stand Sammy Sosa, so I was really gunning
for the Marlins from the start of the playoffs. And I don't care who
you are, you gotta love Dontrelle.

So as far as the sorry DH AL was concerned, I've always had a thing
for the Sox (Guess it's because I hate the Yankees). So really the
only thing that would beat seeing the Sox beat the Yankees is seeing a
bunch of kids on a team with a payroll smaller than the Yankees
(useless) bullpen school the Yankees.

-- 
(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: OT: Game fish? [was Re: just a comment from a...]
Date: 
Message-ID: <JE6tb.92917$ri.14359644@twister.nyc.rr.com>
Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
> Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> 
> 
>>Anthony Ventimiglia wrote:
>>(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)
>>
>>Doesn't matter. We'll be cheerful all winter thinking about Grady
>>Little serving us roasted Pedro on a silver platter in the bottom of
>>the eighth, and Aaron Boone's blast floating up into the night sky  to
>>lead-off the eleventh.
>>
>>I'm smiling now. <g>
>>
>>kenny
> 
> 
> First it's cute how you assume (wrongly) that I'm a Red Sox Fan.

you think under pressure about as well as Grady Little: all i said was 
that yankee fans are simply delighted with beating our arch-rivals. what 
has that got to do with your allegiance? (hint: nothing)

> 
> Then It's cute how you talk about Aaron Boone who did so much to help
> the Marlins win.

Dude, check ESPN.com at once. Football, hockey, Lebron James. But I 
guess the wound has not healed from watching Boone's home run leading 
off the bottom of the eleventh, sailing higher and higher into the night 
to left field, nowhere near the foul pole, all hope lost for you.

how about Mariano Rivera lying face down on the first base line laughing 
his ass off and ignoring his buddy trying to lift him up, just laughing 
and laughing. he said it was easily his best moment ever in sports.

Yep. It wasn't Mets-Bosox 86, but what could be?

> 
> Me, I just keep laughing at all those AL idiots who had no idea how
> many ways the Marlins would kick your ass. What were they all saying ?
> That's right Yankees in Six.

Yeah, I was surprised to hear the Marlins were underdogs after watching 
them play the Series. The folks I hang with were surprised the Yankees 
made it past the first round this year, so it was all gravy. I think 
Yankee Class got them to the World Series, and after the Bosox series 
they just could not get it up for... game fish?

:)

kenny


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From: Anthony Ventimiglia
Subject: Re: OT: Game fish? [was Re: just a comment from a...]
Date: 
Message-ID: <87n0ayiqpn.fsf@afghan.dogpound>
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:

> you think under pressure about as well as Grady Little: all i said was
> that yankee fans are simply delighted with beating our
> arch-rivals. what has that got to do with your allegiance? (hint:
> nothing)

Typical yankees fan, Can't face reality. The spankees didn't beat the
Sox, Grady Little beat the sox.

> 
> > Then It's cute how you talk about Aaron Boone who did so much to help
> > the Marlins win.
> 
> Dude, check ESPN.com at once. Football, hockey, Lebron James. But I
> guess the wound has not healed from watching Boone's home run leading
> off the bottom of the eleventh, sailing higher and higher into the
> night to left field, nowhere near the foul pole, all hope lost for you.

Nope really didn't matter much to me, in fact it was all the better to
watch the yankees fall to the Marlins. How pathetic is it that the New
York bullpen makes more than the entire Marlins team. And Torre did
everything he could to keep that bullpen out of the game.

> how about Mariano Rivera lying face down on the first base line
> laughing his ass off and ignoring his buddy trying to lift him up,
> just laughing and laughing. he said it was easily his best moment ever
> in sports.

He said it, but that was before a 26 year old shutout the yankees to
win the world series.  But I'd have to say that compete's with Randy
Johnson's Relief win and Mariano's Blown Save to end the 2001 series
as far as recent "Great Moments" go.

I mean honestly I don't hate the Yankees so much as I hate Yankees
fans (a bunch of which are riding the bandwagon from the past few
years). You guys could probably watch them beat up on a little league
softball team and you'd want to throw a friggin ticker tape parade.

> Yep. It wasn't Mets-Bosox 86, but what could be?
> 
> > Me, I just keep laughing at all those AL idiots who had no idea how
> > many ways the Marlins would kick your ass. What were they all saying ?
> > That's right Yankees in Six.
> 
> Yeah, I was surprised to hear the Marlins were underdogs after
> watching them play the Series. The folks I hang with were surprised
> the Yankees made it past the first round this year, so it was all
> gravy. I think Yankee Class got them to the World Series, and after
> the Bosox series they just could not get it up for... game fish?

But on a friendly note: 

I don't think anyone who knew the NL really thought they were, I think
all the NY sports writers just took each other's opinion's for their
own. Hell if you want to play the odds, and you had to bet you'd
always bet for the Yankees. But honestly I think the NY area sports
writers are a bunch oof idiots, my Daily paper (Bergen Record)
featured a full page article matching up the Yanks and Marlins that
was practically copied off of MLB.com.


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(incf *yankees-world-series-losses*)