From: Don Saklad
Subject: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <y444qxagswa.fsf@nestle.ai.mit.edu>
a. How would you put together a home computer with GNU/Linux ?...


b. What manufacturers components would you look to in assembling a
   computer with GNU/Linux ?...


I've heard that the best is knoppix.

From: Jock Cooper
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3islpjxik.fsf@jcooper02.sagepub.com>
Don Saklad <·······@nestle.ai.mit.edu> writes:

> a. How would you put together a home computer with GNU/Linux ?...
> 
> 
> b. What manufacturers components would you look to in assembling a
>    computer with GNU/Linux ?...
> 
> 
> I've heard that the best is knoppix.

If you want to put it together yourself you need a :
1 case
1a power supply (if not included with case)
1b case fan (I think 80mm is the usual size)
2 motherboard (ATX is the usual type; refers to the form factor)
3 CPU 
3a CPU fan (sometimes included)
4 memory 
(you can often buy 4-6 bundled)
5 hard drive, floppy drive, cdrom
5a cables for these are usually included
6 video card
7 sound card (often on motherboard nowadays)
8 network card ( "        "           "   )
9 keyboard/mouse/monitor

pricewatch.com is a good way to find cheap prices;  also it's
a good way to find websites that sell computers and parts in general.

If you don't want to build it from scratch, most of the parts
sellers will preassemble and test one for you.. usually a good
deal and much less trouble.

When the computer is ready, boot a Linux CD and go from there.
You can either buy a Linux CD or download an ISO image and burn
the disk yourself..  I have used Red Hat 7 and debian, of those
I prefer debian Linux.  (Knoppix is a bootable linux CD that lets
you get into Linux without actually doing a HD install.  Which
may or may not be all that useful.)

If you want to dual boot the machine (so it can boot both Linux
and Windows) you may want something like Partition Manager to 
handle setting up the disk partitions to support this.

Sites you may find helpful:
www.tomshardware.com
www.motherboards.org
www.extremetech.com
www.linux.org
www.debian.org
From: Kin Cho
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <7i8ymlzbu3.fsf@neoscale.com>
Jock Cooper <·····@mail.com> writes:

> Don Saklad <·······@nestle.ai.mit.edu> writes:
> 
> > a. How would you put together a home computer with GNU/Linux ?...
> > 
> > 
> > b. What manufacturers components would you look to in assembling a
> >    computer with GNU/Linux ?...
> > 
> > 
> > I've heard that the best is knoppix.
> 
> If you want to put it together yourself you need a :
> 1 case
> 1a power supply (if not included with case)
> 1b case fan (I think 80mm is the usual size)
> 2 motherboard (ATX is the usual type; refers to the form factor)

If you're looking to buy a new motherboard, first check the
motherboard manufacturer's website for the availability of
chipset drivers -- look for pci bridge, ide, sound, ethernet,
etc...  Often RH is the only vendor supported unless they also
provide source code (rare).

Older motherboards chipsets are often supported by the newer
kernels.

-kin

> 3 CPU 
> 3a CPU fan (sometimes included)
> 4 memory 
> (you can often buy 4-6 bundled)
> 5 hard drive, floppy drive, cdrom
> 5a cables for these are usually included
> 6 video card
> 7 sound card (often on motherboard nowadays)
> 8 network card ( "        "           "   )
> 9 keyboard/mouse/monitor
> 
> pricewatch.com is a good way to find cheap prices;  also it's
> a good way to find websites that sell computers and parts in general.
> 
> If you don't want to build it from scratch, most of the parts
> sellers will preassemble and test one for you.. usually a good
> deal and much less trouble.
> 
> When the computer is ready, boot a Linux CD and go from there.
> You can either buy a Linux CD or download an ISO image and burn
> the disk yourself..  I have used Red Hat 7 and debian, of those
> I prefer debian Linux.  (Knoppix is a bootable linux CD that lets
> you get into Linux without actually doing a HD install.  Which
> may or may not be all that useful.)
> 
> If you want to dual boot the machine (so it can boot both Linux
> and Windows) you may want something like Partition Manager to 
> handle setting up the disk partitions to support this.
> 
> Sites you may find helpful:
> www.tomshardware.com
> www.motherboards.org
> www.extremetech.com
> www.linux.org
> www.debian.org
From: Frank A. Adrian
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <axvsb.627$WF2.31082@news.uswest.net>
Jock Cooper wrote:

> Knoppix is a bootable linux CD that lets
> you get into Linux without actually doing a HD install.  Which
> may or may not be all that useful.

A quick FYI.  Once booted into Knoppix there is a command that will install
it to your hard drive (and no, I don't remember what it is - I tend to use
Knoppix as a rescue disk :-).

faa
From: Thomas A. Russ
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <ymir80dv2vz.fsf@sevak.isi.edu>
Don Saklad <·······@nestle.ai.mit.edu> writes:

> 
> a. How would you put together a home computer with GNU/Linux ?...

Wouldn't a Symbolics system be more appropriate for this forum?


-- 
Thomas A. Russ,  USC/Information Sciences Institute
From: Bruce Hoult
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <bruce-AC7C25.17333412112003@copper.ipg.tsnz.net>
In article <···············@nestle.ai.mit.edu>,
 Don Saklad <·······@nestle.ai.mit.edu> wrote:

> a. How would you put together a home computer with GNU/Linux ?...
> 
> 
> b. What manufacturers components would you look to in assembling a
>    computer with GNU/Linux ?...

Get an AMD processor and an Abit/Asus/Gigabit ATX motherboard and you're 
away.


> I've heard that the best is knoppix.

Who?

-- Bruce
From: Rayiner Hashem
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <a3995c0d.0311131057.54da60df@posting.google.com>
> 
> > I've heard that the best is knoppix.
> 
> Who?
> 
> -- Bruce
Its a Debian-based live-CD with some custom tools. It installs a
normal Debian system to your hard drive.
From: lin8080
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <3FB2C70D.2FB6C05F@freenet.de>
Don Saklad schrieb:

> I've heard that the best is knoppix.

Knoppix is Debian unstable (:o
You can also look for Aurox  ;-)

stefan
From: Bud Rogers
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <994b81-9i9.ln1@twocups.netride.net>
lin8080 wrote:


> Don Saklad schrieb:
> 
>> I've heard that the best is knoppix.
> 
> Knoppix is Debian unstable (:o

More testing than unstable.

-- 
Bud Rogers      <····@netride.net>       KD5SZ
From: Alain Picard
Subject: Re: How to put together a home computer with GNU/Linux
Date: 
Message-ID: <87u158tyug.fsf@memetrics.com>
Bud Rogers <····@netride.net> writes:

> lin8080 wrote:
>
>
>> Don Saklad schrieb:
>> 
>>> I've heard that the best is knoppix.
>> 
>> Knoppix is Debian unstable (:o
>
> More testing than unstable.
>

I use it on my laptop, on which I do "real" (aka "paid") work.

The testing/unstable part hasn't stopped me from sleeping yet...


[BTW, to Frank's post, I think the command was
 /usr/sbin/knoppix-installer ]