From: Yarden Katz
Subject: A minimalist GUI toolkit for Allegro.
Date: 
Message-ID: <86d6kawsdq.fsf@underlevel.net>
Hi,

  I've been looking for a simple-to-use GUI toolkit that runs on
  Allegro CL.  Most of the toolkits I ran into (e.g. cl-gtk) are not
  meant to run out of the box on Allegro.  The popular choice seems to
  be CMUCL, and if it were upto me I'd switch, but it's not.

  McCLIM seems like a superb library that meets my requirements, but
  even its simplest demos outrun the memory limit on the trial version
  of Allegro CL 6.2.  Can anyone recommend a minimalist GUI toolkit
  for Allegro CL that will not outrun the limit until I am able to get
  a full license?

Thanks a lot,
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From: Henrik Motakef
Subject: Re: A minimalist GUI toolkit for Allegro.
Date: 
Message-ID: <87el4qqvdr.fsf@interim.henrik-motakef.de>
Yarden Katz <····@underlevel.net> writes:

> Hi,
>
>   I've been looking for a simple-to-use GUI toolkit that runs on
>   Allegro CL.  Most of the toolkits I ran into (e.g. cl-gtk) are not
>   meant to run out of the box on Allegro.  The popular choice seems to
>   be CMUCL, and if it were upto me I'd switch, but it's not.
>
>   McCLIM seems like a superb library that meets my requirements, but
>   even its simplest demos outrun the memory limit on the trial version
>   of Allegro CL 6.2.  Can anyone recommend a minimalist GUI toolkit
>   for Allegro CL that will not outrun the limit until I am able to get
>   a full license?

I can't test it right now because my Allegro trial doesn't work any
more on FreeBSD 5, but IIRC the gtk interface that comes with it is
supposed to work with the trial. See this message: 
<http://groups.google.com/groups?q=allegro+trial+gtk&hl=en&lr=&ie=UTF-8&selm=ann9qi%24o3a%241%40news.franz.com&rnum=1>

I don't know if it fits your definition of "minimal" and
"simple-to-use", though, because I never used it.

Regards
Henrik
From: Kent M Pitman
Subject: Re: A minimalist GUI toolkit for Allegro.
Date: 
Message-ID: <sfwadfenk9a.fsf@shell01.TheWorld.com>
Yarden Katz <····@underlevel.net> writes:

>   I've been looking for a simple-to-use GUI toolkit that runs on
>   Allegro CL.  Most of the toolkits I ran into (e.g. cl-gtk) are not
>   meant to run out of the box on Allegro.  The popular choice seems to
>   be CMUCL, and if it were upto me I'd switch, but it's not.
> 
>   McCLIM seems like a superb library that meets my requirements, but
>   even its simplest demos outrun the memory limit on the trial version
>   of Allegro CL 6.2.  Can anyone recommend a minimalist GUI toolkit
>   for Allegro CL that will not outrun the limit until I am able to get
>   a full license?

What's wrong with the native common-graphics interface that Allegro
come with? It's got a great GUI builder that is very much like that of
visual basic (or any of the latter day visual blah-de-blah interfaces).
Drag and drop widgets.  Easy to program interfaces.  Some people find
this or that reason not to run Allego (which is not to say that I don't
think it's a fine product--it is), but given that you are using Allegro,
its own graphics and windowing system seems the obvious choice.  The
GUI builder is a clear cut above anything else I've seen around.
(OK, I don't know if it works in the trial edition...)

If that doesn't work for you, and expense is the issue, I'd switch to
LispWorks and go with CAPI, whose interface works fine under the trial
license in my experience.
From: Henrik Motakef
Subject: Re: A minimalist GUI toolkit for Allegro.
Date: 
Message-ID: <871y0qghfr.fsf@interim.henrik-motakef.de>
Kent M Pitman <······@world.std.com> writes:

> The GUI builder is a clear cut above anything else I've seen around.
> (OK, I don't know if it works in the trial edition...)

It does on Windows, but AFAIK not on Linux/Unix, which is likely to be
the OPs platform of choice given that he asked for GTK.

Regards
Henrik
From: Yarden Katz
Subject: Re: A minimalist GUI toolkit for Allegro.
Date: 
Message-ID: <864r5ktv60.fsf@underlevel.net>
Henrik Motakef <··············@web.de> writes:

> Kent M Pitman <······@world.std.com> writes:
>
>> The GUI builder is a clear cut above anything else I've seen around.
>> (OK, I don't know if it works in the trial edition...)
>
> It does on Windows, but AFAIK not on Linux/Unix, which is likely to be
> the OPs platform of choice given that he asked for GTK.

The native Allegro GUI libraries were the first things I looked at for
all the reasons Kent Pitman mentioned, but they are not available (as
far as I could tell from their docs and from experimentation at the
top-level) in the trial version--especially not the GUI builder--and
especially not on Linux as Henrik Motakef added.

Thanks,
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