I am using Common Lisp (17f) on a unix machine. I'm a student. I have
an assignment. So I have my functions all working. If i run everything
from the * prompt in lisp i can get all the correct evaluations.
My question now is how can I compile a file of my functions and a list
of actions? If I load my file into lisp (lisp -load myfile.lisp) it
loads all functions and sets but anything at the end of the file like
(myfunc mylist)
which would execute my functions with my data to demonstrate the output
does not run?
I'm assuming I need to do a compile of some sort or is there an easier
answer?
Jim
You've already gotten answers to your questions, but since it sounds
like you're using CMUCL directly from the toplevel, and you haven't
read the documentation, I've got a couple suggestions. First, you
might try using Hemlock, which is the Emacs-like editor that comes
with CMUCL. You can start it by typing (require 'hemlock), then (ed)
at the toplevel. You can find the current Hemlock and CMUCL
documentation here: <http://www.cons.org/cmucl/doc/>. 17f is pretty
old, but the vast majority of the documentation should still be fine.
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Thomas F. Burdick wrote:
>You've already gotten answers to your questions, but since it sounds
>like you're using CMUCL directly from the toplevel, and you haven't
>read the documentation, I've got a couple suggestions. First, you
>might try using Hemlock, which is the Emacs-like editor that comes
>with CMUCL. You can start it by typing (require 'hemlock), then (ed)
>at the toplevel. You can find the current Hemlock and CMUCL
>documentation here: <http://www.cons.org/cmucl/doc/>. 17f is pretty
>old, but the vast majority of the documentation should still be fine.
>
>
>
Thanks Thomas, I'm trying with the documentation but it is difficult
getting going from scratch. I appreciate the help. When I tried
invoking hemlock I get:
CMU Common Lisp 17f, running on omega.uta.edu
Send bug reports and questions to your local CMU CL maintainer, or to
··········@cs.cmu.edu.
Loaded subsystems:
Python 1.0, target Alpha
CLOS based on PCL version: September 16 92 PCL (f)
* (require 'hemlock)
Error in function COMMON-LISP::INTERNAL-LOAD: "modules:hemlock" does
not exist.
Restarts:
0: [CHECK-AGAIN] See if it exists now.
1: [USE-VALUE ] Prompt for a new name.
2: [CONTINUE ] Return NIL from load of #p"modules:hemlock".
3: [ABORT ] Return to Top-Level.
Debug (type H for help)
(COMMON-LISP::INTERNAL-LOAD #p"modules:hemlock" NIL :ERROR NIL)
0]
I tried using (ed) just to see if some editor would come up but
nothing.... Looks like my system here is probably not seriously used,
just a small amount for student projects the hard way. Emacs does come
up but I wasn't able to get a good feel for using it with Lisp.
I do appreciate the help all have given me here, I only need a little to
get through the not so obvious. Now I'll probably see all you folks in
the prolog group in a couple of weeks :-)
Jim
Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
> I tried using (ed) just to see if some editor would come up but
> nothing.... Looks like my system here is probably not seriously
> used, just a small amount for student projects the hard way. Emacs
> does come up but I wasn't able to get a good feel for using it with
> Lisp.
Just to make sure there's no misconception here: What other users
suggested was using the ILISP package (see
<http://sourceforge.net/projects/ilisp/>) together with Emacs to
control CMUCL from there, i.e. to use Emacs as an IDE. This was _not_
about using Emacs Lisp. Emacs is also written in a Lisp dialect but
it's very different from Common Lisp and will confuse you.
Just to make sure...
Edi.
On 23 Mar 2003 09:51:56 +0100, Edi Weitz <···@agharta.de> wrote:
>Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
>
>> I tried using (ed) just to see if some editor would come up but
>> nothing.... Looks like my system here is probably not seriously
>> used, just a small amount for student projects the hard way. Emacs
>> does come up but I wasn't able to get a good feel for using it with
>> Lisp.
>
>Just to make sure there's no misconception here: What other users
>suggested was using the ILISP package (see
><http://sourceforge.net/projects/ilisp/>) together with Emacs to
>control CMUCL from there, i.e. to use Emacs as an IDE. This was _not_
>about using Emacs Lisp. Emacs is also written in a Lisp dialect but
>it's very different from Common Lisp and will confuse you.
>
>Just to make sure...
>
>Edi.
Yeah, just what I was about to say...If you use Debian,
apt-get install ilisp. Otherwise, I would suggest using XEmacs and
perhaps downloading/installing the ILISP package via their own package
download/install system, which is pretty straightforward.
Then M-x run-ilisp, and "flavor" cmulisp.
Regs, good luck.
Henry
Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
> I am using Common Lisp (17f)
You're confusing the language with one of its implementations--I think
what you're trying to say is "I am using CMUCL 17f". Saying you're
using Common Lisp 17f is like saying you drive a Car Corolla. :)
> on a unix machine. I'm a student. I have an assignment. So I have
> my functions all working. If i run everything from the * prompt in
> lisp i can get all the correct evaluations.
If you're not doing so already, look at using emacs with the "ilisp"
package. I wish I knew of a "Using Emacs to Develop Common Lisp
Applications" tutorial to point you at, but I don't (anyone out there
know of one?).
> My question now is how can I compile a file of my functions and a
> list of actions?
With the COMPILE-FILE function, e.g.: (compile-file "myfile.lisp")
And then you can load the resulting file of object code with the LOAD
function, e.g.: (load "myfile").
> If I load my file into lisp (lisp -load myfile.lisp) it loads all
> functions and sets but anything at the end of the file like (myfunc
> mylist) which would execute my functions with my data to demonstrate
> the output does not run?
I'm pretty sure it is running, it's just not producing any output that
you can see. The "*" prompt is called a "Read, Eval, Print" loop
because it reads a form, evaluates it, and prints the result. When
you load a file, it reads it (unless it's a compiled file) and
evaluates it--but it doesn't print any of the results. You can do
that yourself with the PRINT function. (try changing the
"(myfunc mylist)" calls in your file to "(print (myfunc mylist))".
> I'm assuming I need to do a compile of some sort or is there an
> easier answer?
Actually, I don't think compilation has anything to do with your
problem, but I mentioned COMPILE-FILE anyways because it never hurts
to let someone know that Lisp can be a compiled language. ;)
Gabe Garza
Gabe Garza wrote:
>Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
>
>
>
>
>
>>If I load my file into lisp (lisp -load myfile.lisp) it loads all
>>functions and sets but anything at the end of the file like (myfunc
>>mylist) which would execute my functions with my data to demonstrate
>>the output does not run?
>>
>>
>
>I'm pretty sure it is running, it's just not producing any output that
>you can see. The "*" prompt is called a "Read, Eval, Print" loop
>because it reads a form, evaluates it, and prints the result. When
>you load a file, it reads it (unless it's a compiled file) and
>evaluates it--but it doesn't print any of the results. You can do
>that yourself with the PRINT function. (try changing the
>"(myfunc mylist)" calls in your file to "(print (myfunc mylist))".
>
>
>
>>I'm assuming I need to do a compile of some sort or is there an
>>easier answer?
>>
>>
>
>Actually, I don't think compilation has anything to do with your
>problem, but I mentioned COMPILE-FILE anyways because it never hurts
>to let someone know that Lisp can be a compiled language. ;)
>
>Gabe Garza
>
>
Thanks Gabe, you were right. The Print function is really what I
needed. Appreciate the help.
Jim
On Sun, 23 Mar 2003, Gabe Garza wrote:
> I wish I knew of a "Using Emacs to Develop Common Lisp Applications"
> tutorial to point you at, but I don't (anyone out there know of
> one?).
E.g. Dan Barlow's oldish CMUCL/Linux HOWTO guide contains some
intro-level ILISP hints <http://ww.telent.net/lisp/howto.html>.
It could be useful to the OP.
Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
> I am using Common Lisp (17f) on a unix machine.
I guess that's an old version of CMUCL, right?
> I'm a student. I have an assignment. So I have my functions
> all working. If i run everything from the * prompt in lisp i
> can get all the correct evaluations. My question now is how
> can I compile a file of my functions and a list of actions? If
> I load my file into lisp (lisp -load myfile.lisp) it loads all
> functions and sets but anything at the end of the file like
> (myfunc mylist)
>
> which would execute my functions with my data to demonstrate
> the output does not run? I'm assuming I need to do a compile
> of some sort or is there an easier answer?
You can compile a file with (compile-file "/foo/bar/baz.lisp").
Then load it with (load "/foo/bar/baz"). Or, if you only want to
execute one program from the Unix command line, try putting
(format t "~&Hello, world!")
(fresh-line)
(finish-output)
(quit)
into a file, then compile it as above and run the program with
cmucl -init baz.x86f
or some such. If that's not what you wanted to know, please ask
more specifically.
Regards,
--
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Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de> wrote:
+---------------
| Jim Morrison <······@attbi.com> writes:
| > I load my file into lisp (lisp -load myfile.lisp) ...
|
| Or, if you only want to execute one program from the Unix
| command line, try putting
| (format t "~&Hello, world!")
| (fresh-line)
| (finish-output)
| (quit)
| into a file, then compile it as above and run the program with
| cmucl -init baz.x86f
| or some such.
+---------------
Of course, that will print this:
% cmucl -init baz.x86f
; Loading #p"/home/you/baz.x86f"
Hello, world!
%
If you want to get rid of that sometimes-unfortunate message ;-} ;-}
(e.g., when you're piping the output somewhere else), try this
instead:
% cmucl -noinit -eval '(setf *load-verbose* nil)' -load baz.x86f
Hello, world!
%
-Rob
p.s. Or when you get around to reading the documentation about how
to build your own customized CMUCL images (look at "lib/config.lisp"),
you can just build one with *LOAD-VERBOSE* defaulted to NIL (along
with a bunch of other verbosity vars).
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627 26th Avenue <URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
On 8326 day of my life Rob Warnock wrote:
> If you want to get rid of that sometimes-unfortunate message ;-} ;-}
> (e.g., when you're piping the output somewhere else), try this
> instead:
>
> % cmucl -noinit -eval '(setf *load-verbose* nil)' -load baz.x86f
> Hello, world!
> %
or this:
% cmucl -quiet -load baz.x86f
-quiet seems to be undocumented, but works with CMU CL 18d.
Just my ten copecks :)
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Ivan Boldyrev <···············@cgitftp.uiggm.nsc.ru> wrote:
+---------------
| Rob Warnock wrote:
| > If you want to get rid of that sometimes-unfortunate message ;-} ;-}
| > (e.g., when you're piping the output somewhere else), try this
| > instead:
| >
| > % cmucl -noinit -eval '(setf *load-verbose* nil)' -load baz.x86f
| > Hello, world!
| > %
|
| or this:
| % cmucl -quiet -load baz.x86f
| -quiet seems to be undocumented, but works with CMU CL 18d.
+---------------
I'm running CMUCL 18d, too, yet I get this:
% cmucl -quiet -load baz.x86f
; Loading #p"/u/rpw3/.cmucl-init".
Hello, world!
%
I'm guessing that you don't have an accessible init file in your
home directory (e.g., "init.lisp" or ".cmucl-init"), or you'd get
the message, too. I believe the suppression done by "-quiet" occurs
*after* any init file is loaded (though before any "-load" is processed),
which it why this doesn't cut it either:
% cmucl -quiet -init baz.x86f
; Loading #p"/u/rpw3/baz.x86f".
Hello, world!
%
But by combining our suggestions we get the following, which *is*
silent (even if one has an accessible init file):
% cmucl -noinit -quiet -load baz.x86f
Hello, world!
%
-Rob
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627 26th Avenue <URL:http://rpw3.org/>
San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
On 8328 day of my life Rob Warnock wrote:
> I'm guessing that you don't have an accessible init file in your
> home directory (e.g., "init.lisp" or ".cmucl-init")
Exactly! I `touch`ed it, and message appeared.
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