From: Faust
Subject: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <wujhxteo.fsf@optushome.com.au>
Erlang is an elegant concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
It has support for fault tolerance and hot code replacement.
It can be used for soft realtime applications ( eg telecommunications ).
It has links to databases and support for creating a GUI.
There is a very active and informative ( even for newbies like me )
Erlang discussion list .
To subscribe to the list, send a plain text email to
·········@erlang.org containing the text "subscribe erlang-questions"
in the body of the mail
see http://www.erlang.org/faq.html
--
natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
Summer grasses,
All that remains
Of soldier's dreams
(Basho trans. Stryk)
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 10:03:59 +1100, Faust <·······@optushome.com.au>
wrote in comp.lang.c:
>
> Erlang is an elegant concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
>
> It has support for fault tolerance and hot code replacement.
>
> It can be used for soft realtime applications ( eg telecommunications ).
>
> It has links to databases and support for creating a GUI.
>
> There is a very active and informative ( even for newbies like me )
> Erlang discussion list .
>
> To subscribe to the list, send a plain text email to
> ·········@erlang.org containing the text "subscribe erlang-questions"
> in the body of the mail
>
> see http://www.erlang.org/faq.html
Please stop posting off-topic spam to newsgroups where it doesn't
belong. The existence of Erlang or any other language is irrelevant
to language specific groups.
--
Jack Klein
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From: Faust
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <ptp9i1a7.fsf@optushome.com.au>
Jack Klein <·········@spamcop.net> writes:
> Please stop posting off-topic spam
It is hardly spam.
I was sharing information about an interesting industrial-class programming
language that I recently came across.
Erlang is currently my "mind-expanding" language.
Though I currently use C++ and C for heavy lifting, Erlang has certain
intellectual benefits.
>The existence of Erlang or any other language is irrelevant
> to language specific groups.
I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in programming and
not merely in software archeology.
Can I sell you a nice bridge made in pre-ansi C ? :-)
--
natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
Summer grasses,
All that remains
Of soldier's dreams
(Basho trans. Stryk)
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <3E62CC2C.60908@nyc.rr.com>
Faust wrote:
> Jack Klein <·········@spamcop.net> writes:
>>The existence of Erlang or any other language is irrelevant
>>to language specific groups.
>
>
> I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in programming and
> not merely in software archeology.
No, you made the mistake of thinking one swallow a summer maketh. I
thought your Erlang post was reasonable in c.l.l. But then I too make
the mistake of thinking programmers are interested in programming. :)
--
kenny tilton
clinisys, inc
http://www.tilton-technology.com/
---------------------------------------------------------------
"Cells let us walk, talk, think, make love and realize
the bath water is cold." -- Lorraine Lee Cudmore
From: Faust
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <1y1pxbmv.fsf@optushome.com.au>
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> I thought your Erlang post was reasonable in c.l.l. But then I too make
> the mistake of thinking programmers are interested in programming. :)
Of course it lacks the flexibility and power of CL.
Among other things, it seems to lack a MOP.
And unlike CL, it is not a "programmable programming language" .
But then I could be wrong.
I am merely an Erlang newbie.
Erlangs strong point ( with regard to CL ) are probably the
platform independence. It compiles to extremely efficent bytecode
that is executed by the run time system.
It also comes with a crossplatform gui building system ( of sorts)
--
natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
Summer grasses,
All that remains
Of soldier's dreams
(Basho trans. Stryk)
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:20:32 +1100, Faust <·······@optushome.com.au>
wrote in comp.lang.c:
> Jack Klein <·········@spamcop.net> writes:
>
> > Please stop posting off-topic spam
>
>
> It is hardly spam.
> I was sharing information about an interesting industrial-class programming
> language that I recently came across.
So? What has that got to do with the C or C++ programming language?
If I want to read about programming languages in general, I go to
news:comp.programming.
In C there is only one language, namely C. Anything else is off-topic
there. The C++ standard actually acknowledges two languages, C++ and
C. Despite this doubling of scope, any other language is off-topic
there as well.
> Erlang is currently my "mind-expanding" language.
> Though I currently use C++ and C for heavy lifting, Erlang has certain
> intellectual benefits.
What "expands" your mind is irrelevant. There are/have been literally
thousands of computer languages. Those of them that have a
sufficiently large group of interest have their own specific groups.
For those that don't, there are general purpose groups like
comp.programming where such discussions are considered topical.
> >The existence of Erlang or any other language is irrelevant
> > to language specific groups.
>
> I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in programming and
> not merely in software archeology.
I am interested in programming, but all I am interested in reading
about or discussing in comp.lang.c or comp.lang.c++ is, respectively,
C and C++. I am not interested in reading about Java, Fortran,
Pascal, C#, COP assembly language, or Forth in either of these groups.
If I want to discuss those I know, or can find, fora where they are
topical.
> Can I sell you a nice bridge made in pre-ansi C ? :-)
Amazing, anyone who disagrees with you is worthy of insult? Anyone
who understands the concept of topicality?
*plonk* and good riddance.
--
Jack Klein
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From: Martin Ambuhl
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <3E6350AD.9050006@earthlink.net>
Faust wrote:
> Erlang is currently my "mind-expanding" language.
So is Latvian.
> I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in programming and
> not merely in software archeology.
You are a self-proclaimed newbie. Why do you think a newbie has to
inform experienced programmers about your new toy? Why do you think a
newbie enough of a clue to claim that programming in lisp, C, or C++ is
"software archeology." Those languages, to which newsgroups you posted,
are living productive languages. Niche languages like your new toy are
more likely to be found by digging into arcana, which is much closer to
archeology. Go away.
From: Scott McKay
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <_vI8a.295376$SD6.15763@sccrnsc03>
Irrespective of whether the recommendation has been made by
a newbie or not, his advice is sound. Erlang is one of those rare
languages -- like Lisp, APL, Snobol, Prolog, ML -- that is worth
looking at for its excellent ideas. It is no toy. Anybody here who
thinks that, is mistaken.
As I frequently tell my son, close your mouth so you can open your
eyes a bit wider.
"Martin Ambuhl" <·······@earthlink.net> wrote in message
·····················@earthlink.net...
> Faust wrote:
>
> > Erlang is currently my "mind-expanding" language.
> So is Latvian.
>
> > I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in
programming and
> > not merely in software archeology.
>
> You are a self-proclaimed newbie. Why do you think a newbie has to
> inform experienced programmers about your new toy? Why do you think a
> newbie enough of a clue to claim that programming in lisp, C, or C++ is
> "software archeology." Those languages, to which newsgroups you posted,
> are living productive languages. Niche languages like your new toy are
> more likely to be found by digging into arcana, which is much closer to
> archeology. Go away.
>
>
From: Martin Ambuhl
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <3E635854.6070208@earthlink.net>
Scott McKay wrote:
> Irrespective of whether the recommendation has been made by
> a newbie or not, his advice is sound. Erlang is one of those rare
> languages -- like Lisp, APL, Snobol, Prolog, ML -- that is worth
> looking at for its excellent ideas. It is no toy. Anybody here who
> thinks that, is mistaken.
None of Erlang, Lisp, APL, Snobol, Prolog, or ML are topical in either
comp.lang.c or comp.lang.c++. Anyone who thinks they are, or who posts
advocacy post like yours, to those newsgroups is a fool.
> As I frequently tell my son, close your mouth so you can open your
> eyes a bit wider.
As people who use newsgroups know, you should open your eyes and read
about topicality. Keep your advocacy crap where it belongs.
From: Jerzy Karczmarczuk
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <3E635BB7.5020601@info.unicaen.fr>
Martin Ambuhl wrote:
> Scott McKay wrote:
>
>> Erlang is one of those rare
>> languages -- like Lisp, APL, Snobol, Prolog, ML -- that is worth
>> looking ...
> None of Erlang, Lisp, APL, Snobol, Prolog, or ML are topical in either
> comp.lang.c or comp.lang.c++. Anyone who thinks they are, or who posts
> advocacy post like yours, to those newsgroups is a fool.
>
>> As I frequently tell my son, close your mouth so you can open your
>> eyes a bit wider.
>
>
> As people who use newsgroups know, you should open your eyes and read
> about topicality. Keep your advocacy crap where it belongs.
Would YOU, Martin Ambuhl, get out of comp.lang.functional with YOUR
polite comments? I hate cross-postings, and I send this to comp.lang.c
etc. with apologies (and utmost disgust, anyway, I don't read those
nsgroups). But you are doing exactly what you are fighting against,
projecting your personal views onto a wrong audience.
All of you, please quarrel through private e-mail, there you can abuse
the readers' sense of politeness. Anyway, I don't care anymore, you
are in my kill file now.
Jerzy Karczmarczuk
From: Faust
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <1y1oqhsx.fsf@optushome.com.au>
Martin Ambuhl <·······@earthlink.net> writes:
> Faust wrote:
> You are a self-proclaimed newbie.
I am a self confessed newbie in Erlang.
As for C++, I have used it for around 15 years.
I have also programmed in Fortran, Lisp, Pascal,C, Modula 2, Occam,
Ada, Haskell, Perl and a few others.
> Why do you think a newbie has to
> inform experienced programmers about your new toy?
I learnt about the existence of C++ from a post
in comp.arch in the early eighties.
Another programmer had posted excitedly about his "new toy", C++.
This was back in the early days of cfront.
Some of us move on and learn new things.
--
natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
Summer grasses,
All that remains
Of soldier's dreams
(Basho trans. Stryk)
On Mon, 03 Mar 2003 14:20:32 +1100, Faust wrote:
> Jack Klein <·········@spamcop.net> writes:
>
>> Please stop posting off-topic spam
>
>
> It is hardly spam.
> I was sharing information about an interesting industrial-class programming
> language that I recently came across.
>
> Erlang is currently my "mind-expanding" language.
> Though I currently use C++ and C for heavy lifting, Erlang has certain
> intellectual benefits.
Irrelevant.
>>The existence of Erlang or any other language is irrelevant
>> to language specific groups.
>
> I made the mistake of assuming that programmers are interested in programming and
> not merely in software archeology.
We're interested in general programming. Just only in comp.programming.
This would have been topical there.
--
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Them that has, gets.
>
> It has links to databases and support for creating a GUI.
>
Where is native support for Oracle, SQL2000, Sybase, and DB2? An
industrial development system that has no native support for
industrial strength databases? ODBC doesn't cut it for us. No, thanks.
gk
Faust <·······@optushome.com.au> wrote in message news:<············@optushome.com.au>...
> Erlang is an elegant concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
>
> It has support for fault tolerance and hot code replacement.
>
> It can be used for soft realtime applications ( eg telecommunications ).
>
> It has links to databases and support for creating a GUI.
>
> There is a very active and informative ( even for newbies like me )
> Erlang discussion list .
>
> To subscribe to the list, send a plain text email to
> ·········@erlang.org containing the text "subscribe erlang-questions"
> in the body of the mail
>
> see http://www.erlang.org/faq.html
>
>
> --
>
> natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
> summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
>
> Summer grasses,
> All that remains
> Of soldier's dreams
> (Basho trans. Stryk)
From: White Wolf
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <b40f8b$12i$1@phys-news1.kolumbus.fi>
"Faust" wrote:
>
> Erlang is an elegant concurrent , distributed functional programming
language.
As someone currently working for Ericsson I nicely ask you not to spam
language newsgroups with off-topic posts. Three out of the four
newsgroups where you have posted has nothing to do with the language you
are advertising. I really think that you would do a big favour to
Ericsson and Erlang as well by not alienating people with careless
posting such as this one. Netiquette is something I need you need to
read.
WW
From: Faust
Subject: Re: Learn about Erlang, the concurrent , distributed functional programming language.
Date:
Message-ID: <y93wp1au.fsf@optushome.com.au>
"White Wolf" <·····@freemail.hu> writes:
> are advertising. I really think that you would do a big favour to
> Ericsson and Erlang as well by not alienating people with careless
> posting such as this one. Netiquette is something I need you need to
> read.
My apologies.
--
natsu-gusa ya / tsuwamono-domo-ga / yume no ato
summer grasses / strong ones / dreams site
Summer grasses,
All that remains
Of soldier's dreams
(Basho trans. Stryk)