I'm exploring ASDF as an alternative to mk:defsystem. I found asdf.lisp
itself, but no doc. And now I am trying to use :depends-on at the module
level and it is not having the desired effect (loading the first module
before compiling the second).
Did I miss the asdf doc, or maybe it is suposed to be compatible with
some other defsystem that does have doc? any help appreciated.
[If i were on debian i'd grab the debian package for asdf, looks like
lots of examples in there.]
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Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> [If i were on debian i'd grab the debian package for asdf, looks like
> lots of examples in there.]
Grab it anyway, I think deb and rpm are gziped tars with some extra
files added.
marc
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> I'm exploring ASDF as an alternative to mk:defsystem. I found
> asdf.lisp itself, but no doc. And now I am trying to use :depends-on
> at the module level and it is not having the desired effect (loading
> the first module before compiling the second).
>
> Did I miss the asdf doc, or maybe it is suposed to be compatible with
> some other defsystem that does have doc? any help appreciated.
It's "compatible in spirit" with mk-defsystem, but not so much so that
you could actually use the doc for that.
You don't say _where_ you found asdf - there are probably several
versions floating around by now - but the canonical source is
Sourceforge CVS, which has a web interface at
http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cclan/asdf/
The documentation, such as it is, is in the README file. It sounds
like what you're experiencing is a bug, though. If you're using a
moderately up-to-date version of asdf (current revision is 1.55),
send a bug report to cclan-list <at> lists.sf.net. If that bounces
(you may have to be subscribed to the list to do that these days, I
don't remember) just mail me and I'll forward it.
-dan
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Daniel Barlow wrote:
> You don't say _where_ you found asdf - there are probably several
> versions floating around by now - but the canonical source is
> Sourceforge CVS, which has a web interface at
>
> http://cvs.sourceforge.net/cgi-bin/viewcvs.cgi/cclan/asdf/
>
I think I just came across an old version (1.53) as part of some other
release.
> The documentation, such as it is, is in the README file. It sounds
> like what you're experiencing is a bug, though. If you're using a
> moderately up-to-date version of asdf (current revision is 1.55),
aha. yeah, i started thinking bug a while ago. lemme try that 1.55
version. thx.
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the bath water is cold." -- Lorraine Lee Cudmore
Kenny Tilton wrote:
>
>
> Daniel Barlow wrote:
>> The documentation, such as it is, is in the README file. It sounds
>> like what you're experiencing is a bug, though. If you're using a
>> moderately up-to-date version of asdf (current revision is 1.55),
>
>
> aha. yeah, i started thinking bug a while ago. lemme try that 1.55
> version. thx.
>
The good news is, that was it, thx.
The bad news is, there goes my plan to get out of the top ten posters.
:)
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kenny tilton
clinisys, inc
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the bath water is cold." -- Lorraine Lee Cudmore
Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> [If i were on debian i'd grab the debian package for asdf, looks
> like lots of examples in there.]
From the Debian package webpage for asdf
<http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/cl-asdf.html> there's a
link at the bottom to the source code -
<http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cl-asdf/cl-asdf_1.55.orig.tar.gz>. Get
that archive and unpack it (with WinZip or whatever) - should contain
all the files that are in the .deb archive.
Edi.
Edi Weitz wrote:
> Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
>
>
>>[If i were on debian i'd grab the debian package for asdf, looks
>>like lots of examples in there.]
>
>
> From the Debian package webpage for asdf
> <http://packages.debian.org/unstable/devel/cl-asdf.html> there's a
> link at the bottom to the source code -
> <http://ftp.debian.org/debian/pool/main/c/cl-asdf/cl-asdf_1.55.orig.tar.gz>. Get
> that archive and unpack it (with WinZip or whatever) - should contain
> all the files that are in the .deb archive.
Thx (you and Marc), I tried that but WinZip (which usually handles
tar.gz ok but not always) chokes on it (and my pkZip itself
dies--expired trial?). I love this game!
Anyway, i am deep into ASDF following the code, it seems to be making an
honest effort to honor the dependency, just gotta track a little further
to see why it decides not to load the dependent module (it gets as far
as making sure they are compiled and licking off the load logic, but
that never actually loads).
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kenny tilton
clinisys, inc
http://www.tilton-technology.com/
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the bath water is cold." -- Lorraine Lee Cudmore
>>>>> "KT" == Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
[...]
KT> Thx (you and Marc), I tried that but WinZip (which usually
KT> handles tar.gz ok but not always) chokes on it (and my pkZip
KT> itself dies--expired trial?). I love this game! [...]
http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/woce_V2/disk01/utils/gzip/windows/
and/or
http://www.weihenstephan.de/~syring/win32/UnxUtils.html
You really should quit using inferior windows software. Hmm I should have
driven down and _given_ you a Debian machine before I moved away from NY!
cheers,
BM
Bulent Murtezaoglu wrote:
>>>>>>"KT" == Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
>>>>>
> [...]
> KT> Thx (you and Marc), I tried that but WinZip (which usually
> KT> handles tar.gz ok but not always) chokes on it (and my pkZip
> KT> itself dies--expired trial?). I love this game! [...]
>
> http://www.nodc.noaa.gov/woce_V2/disk01/utils/gzip/windows/
>
> and/or
>
> http://www.weihenstephan.de/~syring/win32/UnxUtils.html
>
> You really should quit using inferior windows software.
Welllll, the last time WinZip wouldn't eat a tar.gz I tried getting at
it from Cygwin with its tools. Oh. Command line interface. Just type
"help". Oh. twenty pages of doc scroll past, allowing me to read the
options beginning w x y or z. because the entire friggin world is 24x80,
right? Oh. I know /page or -page or cat slash pipe/page. try help help.
or maybe some keyboard incantation will just scroll the VT emulator
back. help terminal? let's go look at the doc. oh. man pages. I am
guessing i need to learn man. i am too old for this.
otoh, i am blazing away now with (spit) MS-VC++. Menus, dialogs, help in
randomly accessible form. right-click, select find definition. And
everything Just Works. Of course in general the clunk of Redmond can be
heard, proving only that even in unskilled hands GUIs are more useable
than command lines.
OK, now you've gone and made me say something good about EE. I did
download UnixUtils for Win32, all excited. Oh. Command line.
Aaaaaaaaaaarghhh!
(I did RSTS and VMS for years, I /love/ command lines.)
btw, thx for the offer, but I have the Debian CD and unused hardware,
and once even tried installing Linux under VMWare on Win32 -- it was a
rout, so I am ducking any re-match until I get my confidence back.
:)
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kenny tilton
clinisys, inc
http://www.tilton-technology.com/
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"Cells let us walk, talk, think, make love and realize
the bath water is cold." -- Lorraine Lee Cudmore