Everyone:
I would like to know how many of you are using Lisp to implement academic (a
category to include everything not intended to generate revenue) and
non-academic projects. How many of you choose Lisp as your first preference
for project implementation language? Do you get to make the choice of tools
or does someone else decide that for you? For those of you who don't get to
choose, do you feel that the choices are more technical or non-technical in
nature and are those choices seriously hindering or helping your work?
S Long
Steve Long <·······@hotmail.com> writes:
> I would like to know how many of you are using Lisp to implement
> academic (a category to include everything not intended to generate
> revenue) and non-academic projects. How many of you choose Lisp as
> your first preference for project implementation language?
I've been using Lisp for about two years now. I started to use it for
my own, non-profit projects (call them "academic" if you want) in
2002. Recently, about a month ago, was the first time I used Lisp for
a commercial project.
I'm quite sure that doing the job in Lisp helped me a lot.
> Do you get to make the choice of tools or does someone else decide
> that for you? For those of you who don't get to choose, do you feel
> that the choices are more technical or non-technical in nature and
> are those choices seriously hindering or helping your work?
I work free-lance and the commercial project mentioned above was one
where my customer didn't care about the implementation language. They
just wanted to get the job done.
This is different if I work for customers who are more technically
involved or do part of the programming themselves. I mainly work in
web-related projects (dynamic websites, databases, etc.), and it's
hard to "compete" with PHP, mod_perl, Java and all that stuff out
there. I have a large customer I do much work for and they prefer PHP
and Perl mostly because most of their code-base is PHP and Perl and
because all of their programmers know these two languages. I wouldn't
say they're not open to try out new things but "our programmers don't
know Lisp" is definitely a convincing (for them) non-technical
argument. I'm still trying to continue my subversive work there,
though... :)
HTH,
Edi.
Steve Long <·······@hotmail.com> writes:
> I would like to know how many of you are using Lisp to implement academic (a
> category to include everything not intended to generate revenue) and
> non-academic projects.
I used lisp for academic projects from 1988 to 1994, and have been using
it for commercial projects since 1997.
> How many of you choose Lisp as your first preference
> for project implementation language?
*raise hand*
> Do you get to make the choice of tools
> or does someone else decide that for you?
I wouldn't have worked where I work now if we hadn't been working
almost exclusively with lisp, i.e. the question is somewhat beside the
point ;-), but in my previous job, I was the one pushing lisp. In the
period 1995 - 1997 I chose not to use lisp since partly because I
didn't want my company to become even more dependent on me than they
already were. That decision was clearly wrong, we had no problems
getting lisp programmers, and the lisp programmer group is alive and
kicking one year after I left, afaik.
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(espen)