From: Christopher Browne
Subject: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <av9c4k$d36jd$1@ID-125932.news.dfncis.de>
Following is a summary of articles spanning a 7 day period,
beginning at 29 Dec 2002 07:12:03 GMT and ending at
05 Jan 2003 02:33:03 GMT.

Notes
=====

    - A line in the body of a post is considered to be original if it
      does *not* match the regular expression /^\s{0,3}(?:>|:|\S+>|\+\+|\|\s+|\*\s)/.
    - All text after the last cut line (/^-- $/) in the body is
      considered to be the author's signature.
    - The scanner prefers the Reply-To: header over the From: header
      in determining the "real" e-mail address and name.
    - Original Content Rating is the ratio of the original content volume
      to the total body volume.
    - Please send all comments to Christopher Browne <········@acm.org>

Totals
======

Posters:  96
Articles: 336 (132 with cutlined signatures)
Threads:  28
Volume generated: 856.6 kb
    - headers:    378.5 kb (5,911 lines)
    - bodies:     458.1 kb (11,504 lines)
    - original:   271.3 kb (7,250 lines)
    - signatures: 19.6 kb (515 lines)

Original Content Rating: 0.592

Averages
========

Posts per poster: 3.5
    median: 2.0 posts
    mode:   1 post - 36 posters
    s:      5.5 posts
Posts per thread: 12.0
    median: 5.0 posts
    mode:   1 post - 11 threads
    s:      21.7 posts
Message size: 2610.6 bytes
    - header:     1153.5 bytes (17.6 lines)
    - body:       1396.1 bytes (34.2 lines)
    - original:   826.9 bytes (21.6 lines)
    - signature:  59.9 bytes (1.5 lines)

Top 10 Posters by Number of Posts
=================================

         (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Posts  Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Address
-----  --------------------------  -------

   22    54.3 ( 28.4/ 20.7/ 11.8)  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
   20    37.4 ( 22.4/ 15.0/ 10.0)  Tim Bradshaw <···@cley.com>
   19    77.4 ( 23.1/ 54.3/ 17.6)  Marc Spitzer <········@optonline.net>
   17    49.4 ( 27.3/ 22.1/ 13.2)  Chris Gehlker <·······@fastq.com>
   13    33.9 ( 16.7/ 14.9/  6.5)  Pascal Costanza <········@web.de>
   12    23.3 ( 13.2/ 10.1/  5.9)  Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu>
   11    24.7 ( 12.8/ 11.8/  4.0)  Oleg <············@myrealbox.com>
    9    33.1 (  7.4/ 23.8/  7.2)  Pascal Bourguignon <···@informatimago.com>
    8    35.4 (  8.8/ 25.3/ 23.6)  Erik Naggum <····@naggum.no>
    8    13.1 (  8.9/  4.2/  2.3)  The

These posters accounted for 41.4% of all articles.

Top 10 Posters by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Address
--------------------------  -----  -------

  77.4 ( 23.1/ 54.3/ 17.6)     19  Marc Spitzer <········@optonline.net>
  54.3 ( 28.4/ 20.7/ 11.8)     22  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
  49.4 ( 27.3/ 22.1/ 13.2)     17  Chris Gehlker <·······@fastq.com>
  37.4 ( 22.4/ 15.0/ 10.0)     20  Tim Bradshaw <···@cley.com>
  35.4 (  8.8/ 25.3/ 23.6)      8  Erik Naggum <····@naggum.no>
  33.9 ( 16.7/ 14.9/  6.5)     13  Pascal Costanza <········@web.de>
  33.1 (  7.4/ 23.8/  7.2)      9  Pascal Bourguignon <···@informatimago.com>
  27.1 (  8.0/ 18.0/ 16.2)      7  http://naggum.no/erik/contact.html
  26.1 (  9.5/ 16.0/  9.1)      8  Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de>
  24.7 ( 12.8/ 11.8/  4.0)     11  Oleg <············@myrealbox.com>

These posters accounted for 46.6% of the total volume.

Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.932  ( 23.6 / 25.3)      8  Erik Naggum <····@naggum.no>
0.900  ( 16.2 / 18.0)      7  http://naggum.no/erik/contact.html
0.802  (  9.6 / 11.9)      7  "Steven M. Haflich" <·················@alum.mit.edu>
0.761  (  3.6 /  4.8)      7  ·······@ancar.org
0.664  ( 10.0 / 15.0)     20  Tim Bradshaw <···@cley.com>
0.643  (  9.0 / 14.0)      8  ···@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku)
0.596  ( 13.2 / 22.1)     17  Chris Gehlker <·······@fastq.com>
0.590  (  5.9 / 10.1)     12  Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu>
0.568  ( 11.8 / 20.7)     22  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
0.566  (  9.1 / 16.0)      8  Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de>

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.590  (  5.9 / 10.1)     12  Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu>
0.568  ( 11.8 / 20.7)     22  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
0.566  (  9.1 / 16.0)      8  Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de>
0.551  (  2.3 /  4.2)      8  The
0.516  (  3.6 /  7.0)      5  "Coby Beck" <·····@mercury.bc.ca>
0.516  (  3.4 /  6.6)      6  ···@jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat)
0.435  (  6.5 / 14.9)     13  Pascal Costanza <········@web.de>
0.340  (  4.0 / 11.8)     11  Oleg <············@myrealbox.com>
0.325  ( 17.6 / 54.3)     19  Marc Spitzer <········@optonline.net>
0.302  (  7.2 / 23.8)      9  Pascal Bourguignon <···@informatimago.com>

Top 10 Threads by Number of Posts
=================================

Posts  Subject
-----  -------

   77  Re: Looking for Lisp compiler
   75  Rudeness index was Looking for Lisp compiler
   36  Re: Understanding Lisp Hash-Tables (a little better)
   26  CLL statistics for 2002 (was: Looking for Lisp compiler)
   19  Two DO questions
   15  (endp lst) or (null lst)
   12  Re: S-exp vs XML, HTML, LaTeX (was: Why lisp is growing)
    9  Problem with CLISP and APACHE
    9  Need something like a "fuzzy" hash table
    9  LML & clisp & debian

Top 10 Threads by Volume
========================

  (kb)   (kb)  (kb)  (kb)
Volume (  hdr/ body/ orig)  Posts  Subject
--------------------------  -----  -------

 206.3 (105.4/ 96.3/ 61.6)     75  Rudeness index was Looking for Lisp compiler
 205.0 ( 95.8/104.6/ 60.5)     77  Re: Looking for Lisp compiler
 114.6 ( 34.7/ 77.8/ 32.8)     36  Re: Understanding Lisp Hash-Tables (a little better)
  75.7 ( 35.2/ 39.3/ 19.9)     26  CLL statistics for 2002 (was: Looking for Lisp compiler)
  35.3 ( 15.0/ 19.3/ 13.5)     15  (endp lst) or (null lst)
  31.0 ( 11.8/ 18.9/ 13.7)     12  Re: S-exp vs XML, HTML, LaTeX (was: Why lisp is growing)
  29.4 ( 17.2/ 10.3/  5.4)     19  Two DO questions
  24.6 (  6.6/ 17.6/ 10.5)      7  Re: Just curious, why is boole the way it is?
  17.1 (  7.1/  9.0/  5.7)      9  Problem with CLISP and APACHE
  16.3 (  7.4/  8.6/  5.4)      9  Need something like a "fuzzy" hash table

Top 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of three posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.857  (  6.9/   8.1)      4  Re: General Form of Relationships?
0.794  (  7.1/   8.9)      5  Pretty printing streams and *print-right-margin* modification
0.723  ( 13.7/  18.9)     12  Re: S-exp vs XML, HTML, LaTeX (was: Why lisp is growing)
0.703  (  3.3/   4.8)      5  Declaring variables bound by WITH-x forms SPECIAL
0.699  ( 13.5/  19.3)     15  (endp lst) or (null lst)
0.645  (  3.0/   4.7)      9  LML & clisp & debian
0.639  ( 61.6/  96.3)     75  Rudeness index was Looking for Lisp compiler
0.631  (  5.7/   9.0)      9  Problem with CLISP and APACHE
0.621  (  5.4/   8.6)      9  Need something like a "fuzzy" hash table
0.600  ( 10.5/  17.6)      7  Re: Just curious, why is boole the way it is?

Bottom 10 Threads by OCR (minimum of three posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Subject
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.639  ( 61.6 / 96.3)     75  Rudeness index was Looking for Lisp compiler
0.631  (  5.7 /  9.0)      9  Problem with CLISP and APACHE
0.621  (  5.4 /  8.6)      9  Need something like a "fuzzy" hash table
0.600  ( 10.5 / 17.6)      7  Re: Just curious, why is boole the way it is?
0.589  (  3.1 /  5.3)      8  object size
0.578  ( 60.5 /104.6)     77  Re: Looking for Lisp compiler
0.524  (  5.4 / 10.3)     19  Two DO questions
0.507  ( 19.9 / 39.3)     26  CLL statistics for 2002 (was: Looking for Lisp compiler)
0.491  (  1.5 /  3.0)      7  Re: Did McCarthy change his name and move to Oslo?
0.421  ( 32.8 / 77.8)     36  Re: Understanding Lisp Hash-Tables (a little better)

Top 10 Targets for Crossposts
=============================

Articles  Newsgroup
--------  ---------

       4  sci.data.formats
       4  comp.databases.theory
       4  sci.math.symbolic
       4  sci.logic
       4  comp.programming
       1  comp.ai.edu
       1  comp.games.development.programming.algorithms
       1  comp.ai.fuzzy

Top 10 Crossposters
===================

Articles  Address
--------  -------

       8  ········@hotmail.com (Neo)
       4  ·····@vesuvius.math.niu.edu (Dave Rusin)
       4  ···@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku)
       3  Oleg <············@myrealbox.com>
       2  ···········@yahoo.com (Edward G. Nilges)
       1  "Coby Beck" <·····@mercury.bc.ca>
       1  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
       0  ·······@ancar.org
       0  ····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord)
       0  ······@schlund.de (Hannah Schroeter)

From: Tom Lord
Subject: Re: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <v1gf7l3muu7ub0@corp.supernews.com>
	Top 10 Crossposters
	===================

       0  ·······@ancar.org
       0  ····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord)
       0  ······@schlund.de (Hannah Schroeter)


Are there really only about 10 posters here, or did we just win the
sort-order race, or what?


"never cross-posted ever, not once",
-t
From: Joe Marshall
Subject: Re: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <3co6hwnx.fsf@ccs.neu.edu>
····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord) writes:

> 	Top 10 Crossposters
> 	===================
> 
>        0  ·······@ancar.org
>        0  ····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord)
>        0  ······@schlund.de (Hannah Schroeter)
> 
> 
> Are there really only about 10 posters here, or did we just win the
> sort-order race, or what?
> 

Considering that I'm one of the top ten *and* one of the bottom ten
posters, I think the number of posters is getting small.


Top 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
==============================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.932  ( 23.6 / 25.3)      8  Erik Naggum <····@naggum.no>
0.900  ( 16.2 / 18.0)      7  http://naggum.no/erik/contact.html
0.802  (  9.6 / 11.9)      7  "Steven M. Haflich" <·················@alum.mit.edu>
0.761  (  3.6 /  4.8)      7  ·······@ancar.org
0.664  ( 10.0 / 15.0)     20  Tim Bradshaw <···@cley.com>
0.643  (  9.0 / 14.0)      8  ···@ashi.footprints.net (Kaz Kylheku)
0.596  ( 13.2 / 22.1)     17  Chris Gehlker <·······@fastq.com>
0.590  (  5.9 / 10.1)     12  Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu>
0.568  ( 11.8 / 20.7)     22  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
0.566  (  9.1 / 16.0)      8  Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de>

Bottom 10 Posters by OCR (minimum of five posts)
=================================================

         (kb)    (kb)
OCR      orig /  body  Posts  Address
-----  --------------  -----  -------

0.590  (  5.9 / 10.1)     12  Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu>
0.568  ( 11.8 / 20.7)     22  Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com>
0.566  (  9.1 / 16.0)      8  Nils Goesche <···@cartan.de>
0.551  (  2.3 /  4.2)      8  The
0.516  (  3.6 /  7.0)      5  "Coby Beck" <·····@mercury.bc.ca>
0.516  (  3.4 /  6.6)      6  ···@jpl.nasa.gov (Erann Gat)
0.435  (  6.5 / 14.9)     13  Pascal Costanza <········@web.de>
0.340  (  4.0 / 11.8)     11  Oleg <············@myrealbox.com>
0.325  ( 17.6 / 54.3)     19  Marc Spitzer <········@optonline.net>
0.302  (  7.2 / 23.8)      9  Pascal Bourguignon <···@informatimago.com>
From: Duane Rettig
Subject: Re: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <465t26its.fsf@beta.franz.com>
Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu> writes:

> ····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord) writes:
> 
> > 	Top 10 Crossposters
> > 	===================
> > 
> >        0  ·······@ancar.org
> >        0  ····@emf.emf.net (Tom Lord)
> >        0  ······@schlund.de (Hannah Schroeter)
> > 
> > 
> > Are there really only about 10 posters here, or did we just win the
> > sort-order race, or what?
> > 
> 
> Considering that I'm one of the top ten *and* one of the bottom ten
> posters, I think the number of posters is getting small.

Or, we could have come off of a holiday week and the number of
posters _was_ small...

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From: Dorai Sitaram
Subject: Re: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <aveqr3$s0q$1@news.gte.com>
In article <·············@beta.franz.com>,
Duane Rettig  <·····@franz.com> wrote:
>Joe Marshall <···@ccs.neu.edu> writes:
>
>> 
>> Considering that I'm one of the top ten *and* one of the bottom ten
>> posters, I think the number of posters is getting small.
>
>Or, we could have come off of a holiday week and the number of
>posters _was_ small...
>

The number of posters was 96.  It's strange that there
can be 96 posters and the top 10 and bottom 10 posters
for the same property (OCR in this case) can still have
a non-� intersection.
From: Lars J. Aas
Subject: Re: Statistics for comp.lang.lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <avetjn$68l$1@news.teledanmark.no>
In article <············@news.gte.com>, Dorai Sitaram <····@gte.com> wrote:
> The number of posters was 96.  It's strange that there
> can be 96 posters and the top 10 and bottom 10 posters
> for the same property (OCR in this case) can still have
> a non-� intersection.

Not at all.  Only 17 people posted at least five postings,
which is the discriminant for being part of the OCR stats.

  Lars J
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