From: amit phalgune
Subject: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <a6ef5792.0308131314.7da48a46@posting.google.com>
This doubt is  with respect to CMUCL. 

I am trying to access a external symbol from the multiprocessing
package.
Following is the thing I am trying to do :

* (describe (find-package "MP"))

I get the correct output. Now I do the following :

* (describe 'mp:make-process)

this fails :

error is ==>  MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the
MULTIPROCESSING
package.

However , I tried to look at the same thing on google and found one of
the
links mentioning abt the exact 2 operations, that I am doing above and
they can
successfully execute it. Do you know what might be the problem. How
can I
make this "make-process" function work. I am sure this exists in the
MP
package in CMUCL and the error says it is an external symbol. The
steele
book says the correct way to access a external symbol is with a ":".
Does this problem have to do anything with the loading of the package,
or installing the MP package during the installation of CMUCL

Thanks in advance,
Amit

From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <8765kxoosr.fsf@Astalo.kon.iki.fi>
········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:

> * (describe (find-package "MP"))
>
> I get the correct output.

The output should include:

%NAME: "MULTIPROCESSING".
%NICKNAMES: ("MP").

i.e., the package is really called MULTIPROCESSING, and MP is
just a nickname that refers to it.

> * (describe 'mp:make-process)
>
> this fails :
>
> error is ==>  MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the
> MULTIPROCESSING package.

That is not an error.  It's just DESCRIBE telling you the home
package of the symbol and whether it's exported from there.
For example:

* (describe 'my-own-symbol)
MY-OWN-SYMBOL is an internal symbol in the COMMON-LISP-USER package.

* (describe 'nil)
NIL is an external symbol in the COMMON-LISP package.
It is a constant; its value is NIL.

DESCRIBE does not know whether you typed mp:make-process or
multiprocessing:make-process.  It gets the same symbol in either
case.
From: amit phalgune
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <a6ef5792.0308161523.6731bd16@posting.google.com>
So how can we access or call the mp:make-process symbol in Lisp. When
I add the call, it again gives me the same problem. "MAKE-PROCESS is
an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package."

So basically how do I get the lisp code working where-in I have a call

(mp:make-process ... )

Thanks



Kalle Olavi Niemitalo <···@iki.fi> wrote in message news:<··············@Astalo.kon.iki.fi>...
> ········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:
> 
> > * (describe (find-package "MP"))
> >
> > I get the correct output.
> 
> The output should include:
> 
> %NAME: "MULTIPROCESSING".
> %NICKNAMES: ("MP").
> 
> i.e., the package is really called MULTIPROCESSING, and MP is
> just a nickname that refers to it.
> 
> > * (describe 'mp:make-process)
> >
> > this fails :
> >
> > error is ==>  MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the
> > MULTIPROCESSING package.
> 
> That is not an error.  It's just DESCRIBE telling you the home
> package of the symbol and whether it's exported from there.
> For example:
> 
> * (describe 'my-own-symbol)
> MY-OWN-SYMBOL is an internal symbol in the COMMON-LISP-USER package.
> 
> * (describe 'nil)
> NIL is an external symbol in the COMMON-LISP package.
> It is a constant; its value is NIL.
> 
> DESCRIBE does not know whether you typed mp:make-process or
> multiprocessing:make-process.  It gets the same symbol in either
> case.
From: Peter Seibel
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <m37k5dp3r8.fsf@javamonkey.com>
········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:

> So how can we access or call the mp:make-process symbol in Lisp. When
> I add the call, it again gives me the same problem. "MAKE-PROCESS is
> an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package."
> 
> So basically how do I get the lisp code working where-in I have a call
> 
> (mp:make-process ... )

I have no particular idea what the problem is here but I suspect you
need to show us more precicsely what you're doing: cut-n-paste what
you actually type at the top-level and what it says back without
leaving anything out. (Assuming of course that it doesn't spew out
reams and reams of output.)

-Peter

-- 
Peter Seibel                                      ·····@javamonkey.com

         Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp
From: amit phalgune
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <a6ef5792.0308171047.3b334b98@posting.google.com>
Here is the cut-copy paste output of all I am doing .. 


bash%: cmucl
CMU Common Lisp 18c, Built 2000-11-27, running on jasper03.CS.ORST.EDU
Send questions and bug reports to your local CMU CL maintainer, or to
··········@cons.org. and ·········@cons.org. respectively.
Loaded subsystems:
    Python 1.0, target SPARCstation/Solaris 2
    CLOS based on PCL version:  September 16 92 PCL (f)
* (describe (find-package "MP"))

#<The MULTIPROCESSING package, 0/4 internal, 40/44 external> is a
structure of type PACKAGE.
TABLES: (NIL #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 1242, Free = 253, Deleted =
0>).
%NAME: "MULTIPROCESSING".
%NICKNAMES: ("MP").
%USE-LIST: (#<The COMMON-LISP package, 1513/3902 internal, 989/1242
external>).
%USED-BY-LIST: NIL.
INTERNAL-SYMBOLS: #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 44, Free = 4, Deleted =
40>.
EXTERNAL-SYMBOLS: #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 44, Free = 4, Deleted =
0>.
%SHADOWING-SYMBOLS: NIL.
DOC-STRING: NIL.
80 symbols total: 40 internal and 40 external.
* (describe 'mp:make-process)

MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package.
* 

 *features*

(:PCL-STRUCTURES :PORTABLE-COMMONLOOPS :NEW-ASSEMBLER :PYTHON :PCL
:SMALL
 :COMPLEX-FP-VOPS :SPARC-V9 :HASH-NEW :RANDOM-MT19937
:PROPAGATE-FUN-TYPE
 :PROPAGATE-FLOAT-TYPE :CONSTRAIN-FLOAT-TYPE :CMU18C :CMU18
:NO-HEMLOCK :NO-CLM
 :NO-CLX :SOLARIS :SVR4 :SUN4 :SPARC :SPARCSTATION :SUNOS :UNIX
:COMMON :CMU
 :NEW-COMPILER :CLTL2 :COMMON-LISP :ANSI-CL :DRAFT-ANSI-CL :X3J13
 :IEEE-FLOATING-POINT)
* 
/**************/
CMUCL version :
/****************/

CMU Common Lisp 18c, Built 2000-11-27, running on jasper03.CS.ORST.EDU
Send questions and bug reports to your local CMU CL maintainer, or to
··········@cons.org. and ·········@cons.org. respectively.
Loaded subsystems:
    Python 1.0, target SPARCstation/Solaris 2
    CLOS based on PCL version:  September 16 92 PCL (f)

/**************/
This is the OS version:
/*************/

SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-19 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2


Thanks 
Amit 




Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> wrote in message news:<··············@javamonkey.com>...
> ········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:
> 
> > So how can we access or call the mp:make-process symbol in Lisp. When
> > I add the call, it again gives me the same problem. "MAKE-PROCESS is
> > an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package."
> > 
> > So basically how do I get the lisp code working where-in I have a call
> > 
> > (mp:make-process ... )
> 
> I have no particular idea what the problem is here but I suspect you
> need to show us more precicsely what you're doing: cut-n-paste what
> you actually type at the top-level and what it says back without
> leaving anything out. (Assuming of course that it doesn't spew out
> reams and reams of output.)
> 
> -Peter
From: Peter Seibel
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3u18grr92.fsf@javamonkey.com>
········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:

> Here is the cut-copy paste output of all I am doing .. 

And where's the error? As far as I can tell, all you did was describe
a package, a symbol, and then look at *FEATURES*. All of which worked.
If you're having a problem invoking the function mp:make-process, it
would be usefull to see what happens when you invoke it!

-Peter

> 
> bash%: cmucl
> CMU Common Lisp 18c, Built 2000-11-27, running on jasper03.CS.ORST.EDU
> Send questions and bug reports to your local CMU CL maintainer, or to
> ··········@cons.org. and ·········@cons.org. respectively.
> Loaded subsystems:
>     Python 1.0, target SPARCstation/Solaris 2
>     CLOS based on PCL version:  September 16 92 PCL (f)
> * (describe (find-package "MP"))
> 
> #<The MULTIPROCESSING package, 0/4 internal, 40/44 external> is a
> structure of type PACKAGE.
> TABLES: (NIL #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 1242, Free = 253, Deleted =
> 0>).
> %NAME: "MULTIPROCESSING".
> %NICKNAMES: ("MP").
> %USE-LIST: (#<The COMMON-LISP package, 1513/3902 internal, 989/1242
> external>).
> %USED-BY-LIST: NIL.
> INTERNAL-SYMBOLS: #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 44, Free = 4, Deleted =
> 40>.
> EXTERNAL-SYMBOLS: #<Package-Hashtable: Size = 44, Free = 4, Deleted =
> 0>.
> %SHADOWING-SYMBOLS: NIL.
> DOC-STRING: NIL.
> 80 symbols total: 40 internal and 40 external.
> * (describe 'mp:make-process)
> 
> MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package.
> * 
> 
>  *features*
> 
> (:PCL-STRUCTURES :PORTABLE-COMMONLOOPS :NEW-ASSEMBLER :PYTHON :PCL
> :SMALL
>  :COMPLEX-FP-VOPS :SPARC-V9 :HASH-NEW :RANDOM-MT19937
> :PROPAGATE-FUN-TYPE
>  :PROPAGATE-FLOAT-TYPE :CONSTRAIN-FLOAT-TYPE :CMU18C :CMU18
> :NO-HEMLOCK :NO-CLM
>  :NO-CLX :SOLARIS :SVR4 :SUN4 :SPARC :SPARCSTATION :SUNOS :UNIX
> :COMMON :CMU
>  :NEW-COMPILER :CLTL2 :COMMON-LISP :ANSI-CL :DRAFT-ANSI-CL :X3J13
>  :IEEE-FLOATING-POINT)
> * 
> /**************/
> CMUCL version :
> /****************/
> 
> CMU Common Lisp 18c, Built 2000-11-27, running on jasper03.CS.ORST.EDU
> Send questions and bug reports to your local CMU CL maintainer, or to
> ··········@cons.org. and ·········@cons.org. respectively.
> Loaded subsystems:
>     Python 1.0, target SPARCstation/Solaris 2
>     CLOS based on PCL version:  September 16 92 PCL (f)
> 
> /**************/
> This is the OS version:
> /*************/
> 
> SunOS 5.8 Generic_108528-19 sun4u sparc SUNW,UltraAX-i2
> 
> 
> Thanks 
> Amit 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Peter Seibel <·····@javamonkey.com> wrote in message news:<··············@javamonkey.com>...
> > ········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:
> > 
> > > So how can we access or call the mp:make-process symbol in Lisp. When
> > > I add the call, it again gives me the same problem. "MAKE-PROCESS is
> > > an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package."
> > > 
> > > So basically how do I get the lisp code working where-in I have a call
> > > 
> > > (mp:make-process ... )
> > 
> > I have no particular idea what the problem is here but I suspect you
> > need to show us more precicsely what you're doing: cut-n-paste what
> > you actually type at the top-level and what it says back without
> > leaving anything out. (Assuming of course that it doesn't spew out
> > reams and reams of output.)
> > 
> > -Peter

-- 
Peter Seibel                                      ·····@javamonkey.com

         Lisp is the red pill. -- John Fraser, comp.lang.lisp
From: Kalle Olavi Niemitalo
Subject: Re: make-process error
Date: 
Message-ID: <87r83koy4t.fsf@Astalo.kon.iki.fi>
········@cs.orst.edu (amit phalgune) writes:

> * (describe 'mp:make-process)
>
> MAKE-PROCESS is an external symbol in the MULTIPROCESSING package.
> * 

Ah.  You mean DESCRIBE doesn't output anything else, such as:

Function: #<Function MULTIPROCESSING:MAKE-PROCESS {102C3B11}>
Function arguments:
  (function &key (name "Anonymous") (run-reasons (list :enable))
   (arrest-reasons nil) (initial-bindings nil))

That is, the symbol exists, but it is not bound to a function.

>  *features*
>
> (:PCL-STRUCTURES :PORTABLE-COMMONLOOPS :NEW-ASSEMBLER
>  :PYTHON :PCL :SMALL :COMPLEX-FP-VOPS :SPARC-V9 :HASH-NEW
>  :RANDOM-MT19937 :PROPAGATE-FUN-TYPE :PROPAGATE-FLOAT-TYPE
>  :CONSTRAIN-FLOAT-TYPE :CMU18C :CMU18 :NO-HEMLOCK :NO-CLM
>  :NO-CLX :SOLARIS :SVR4 :SUN4 :SPARC :SPARCSTATION :SUNOS :UNIX
>  :COMMON :CMU :NEW-COMPILER :CLTL2 :COMMON-LISP :ANSI-CL
>  :DRAFT-ANSI-CL :X3J13 :IEEE-FLOATING-POINT)

Nor is :MP among the features.

> CMU Common Lisp 18c, Built 2000-11-27, running on jasper03.CS.ORST.EDU

According to EncyCMUCLopedia from 2001-06-17: "The CMU CL
multi-processing extension is currently available only on the
x86 port."  It seems you are out of luck on the Sparc.

You may be able to use the SERVE-EVENT facility instead.