From: John Jacobs
Subject: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <3dc85dd0$0$46608$e4fe514c@news.xs4all.nl>
I haven't been to connect to the site since november 1st.

From: Rob Warnock
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <R76cnd2zy4vgB1WgXTWcqA@giganews.com>
John Jacobs  <·······@xs4all.nl> wrote:
+---------------
| I haven't been to connect to the site since november 1st.
+---------------

Hmmm... Running "tcpdump" while I try to access it, I get:

    206.181.191.146 > 66.93.131.53: icmp: host 128.18.65.4 unreachable

where:

    66.93.131.53    == rpw3.org (me)
    128.18.65.4     == bibop.alu.org == www.lisp.org == www.alu.org
    206.181.191.146 == ??? (DNS can't resolve IP address!!)

A traceroute tail:

     6  pax-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.30)  10.978 ms ...
     7  sjc3-core4-pos4-3.atlas.algx.net (165.117.48.117)  13.504 ms ...
     8  sjc3-core5-pos6-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.67.241)  12.268 ms ...
     9  206.181.191.146 (206.181.191.146)  13.458 ms ...
    10  * * *
    11  * * *
    12  * * *
    ...forever...

So 206.181.191.146 (whoever that is?!? -- ARIN "whois" says the Class B
is owned by "Business Internet, Inc.") is claiming it can't route any
further towards 128.18.65.4 than itself.

Bad routes being advertised? Routing loop? Broken hardware? Unpaid bills?
YGIAGAM. Go figure...


-Rob

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From: Raymond de Lacaze
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <aqc0gp$kd5$1@news.franz.com>
Rob,

This is currently being looked into. Thanks for pointing this out.

Cheers,

Ray

Raymond de Lacaze
·······@hotmail.com

"Rob Warnock" <····@rpw3.org> wrote in message
···························@giganews.com...
> John Jacobs  <·······@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> +---------------
> | I haven't been to connect to the site since november 1st.
> +---------------
>
> Hmmm... Running "tcpdump" while I try to access it, I get:
>
>     206.181.191.146 > 66.93.131.53: icmp: host 128.18.65.4 unreachable
>
> where:
>
>     66.93.131.53    == rpw3.org (me)
>     128.18.65.4     == bibop.alu.org == www.lisp.org == www.alu.org
>     206.181.191.146 == ??? (DNS can't resolve IP address!!)
>
> A traceroute tail:
>
>      6  pax-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.30)  10.978 ms ...
>      7  sjc3-core4-pos4-3.atlas.algx.net (165.117.48.117)  13.504 ms ...
>      8  sjc3-core5-pos6-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.67.241)  12.268 ms ...
>      9  206.181.191.146 (206.181.191.146)  13.458 ms ...
>     10  * * *
>     11  * * *
>     12  * * *
>     ...forever...
>
> So 206.181.191.146 (whoever that is?!? -- ARIN "whois" says the Class B
> is owned by "Business Internet, Inc.") is claiming it can't route any
> further towards 128.18.65.4 than itself.
>
> Bad routes being advertised? Routing loop? Broken hardware? Unpaid bills?
> YGIAGAM. Go figure...
>
>
> -Rob
>
> -----
> Rob Warnock, PP-ASEL-IA <····@rpw3.org>
> 627 26th Avenue <URL:http://www.rpw3.org/>
> San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
>
>
From: Daniel Barlow
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <871y5yjj2t.fsf@noetbook.telent.net>
····@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) writes:

> So 206.181.191.146 (whoever that is?!? -- ARIN "whois" says the Class B
> is owned by "Business Internet, Inc.") is claiming it can't route any
> further towards 128.18.65.4 than itself.

At the ALU Board Meeting Howard mentioned that the ALU web pages are 
still being mirrored at http://www.elwoodcorp.com/alu/

Admittedly he mentioned it in the context of "please update your
links, google is still hitting my mirror instead of the real site",
but I think that it might be useful as a stopgap until we find out
what's going on with the real site.

(NB The real site is up for some fairly major overhaul RSN.  A
Committee Has Been Formed)

> Bad routes being advertised? Routing loop? Broken hardware? Unpaid bills?
> YGIAGAM. Go figure...

The machine is currently hosted at SRI, fwtw


-dan

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From: Sithi
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <slrnasm80o.o04.sithi@eveningsong.ath.cx>
In article <··············@noetbook.telent.net>, Daniel Barlow wrote:
> ····@rpw3.org (Rob Warnock) writes:
> 
>> So 206.181.191.146 (whoever that is?!? -- ARIN "whois" says the Class B
>> is owned by "Business Internet, Inc.") is claiming it can't route any
>> further towards 128.18.65.4 than itself.
> 
> At the ALU Board Meeting Howard mentioned that the ALU web pages are 
> still being mirrored at http://www.elwoodcorp.com/alu/
> 
> Admittedly he mentioned it in the context of "please update your
> links, google is still hitting my mirror instead of the real site",
> but I think that it might be useful as a stopgap until we find out
> what's going on with the real site.
> 
> (NB The real site is up for some fairly major overhaul RSN.  A
> Committee Has Been Formed)
> 
>> Bad routes being advertised? Routing loop? Broken hardware? Unpaid bills?
>> YGIAGAM. Go figure...
> 
> The machine is currently hosted at SRI, fwtw
> 
> 
> -dan
> 
From: John Boozer
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <544451c3.0211081154.781830a9@posting.google.com>
(workingp www.lisp.org)
-> T
From: Raymond de Lacaze
Subject: Re: What happend to www.lisp.org?
Date: 
Message-ID: <aqgtqh$741$1@news.franz.com>
Folks,

The ALU machine is back online.

Ray

"Rob Warnock" <····@rpw3.org> wrote in message
···························@giganews.com...
> John Jacobs  <·······@xs4all.nl> wrote:
> +---------------
> | I haven't been to connect to the site since november 1st.
> +---------------
>
> Hmmm... Running "tcpdump" while I try to access it, I get:
>
>     206.181.191.146 > 66.93.131.53: icmp: host 128.18.65.4 unreachable
>
> where:
>
>     66.93.131.53    == rpw3.org (me)
>     128.18.65.4     == bibop.alu.org == www.lisp.org == www.alu.org
>     206.181.191.146 == ??? (DNS can't resolve IP address!!)
>
> A traceroute tail:
>
>      6  pax-brdr-02.inet.qwest.net (205.171.205.30)  10.978 ms ...
>      7  sjc3-core4-pos4-3.atlas.algx.net (165.117.48.117)  13.504 ms ...
>      8  sjc3-core5-pos6-0.atlas.algx.net (165.117.67.241)  12.268 ms ...
>      9  206.181.191.146 (206.181.191.146)  13.458 ms ...
>     10  * * *
>     11  * * *
>     12  * * *
>     ...forever...
>
> So 206.181.191.146 (whoever that is?!? -- ARIN "whois" says the Class B
> is owned by "Business Internet, Inc.") is claiming it can't route any
> further towards 128.18.65.4 than itself.
>
> Bad routes being advertised? Routing loop? Broken hardware? Unpaid bills?
> YGIAGAM. Go figure...
>
>
> -Rob
>
> -----
> Rob Warnock, PP-ASEL-IA <····@rpw3.org>
> 627 26th Avenue <URL:http://www.rpw3.org/>
> San Mateo, CA 94403 (650)572-2607
>
>