From: Jules F. Grosse
Subject: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <17c920a6.0211050442.31bca3d@posting.google.com>
Not considering AllegroStore, UncommonSQL, CommonSQL or PLOB!  Is
there any other option available (commercial or not) for an object
oriented database with a Lisp interface?  And on, Statice doesn't
count. ;)

On this same topic, what are your opinions on FramerD?

danke.

From: Martti Halminen
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <3DC7E0D4.1E9BD60D@kolumbus.fi>
"Jules F. Grosse" wrote:

> Not considering AllegroStore, UncommonSQL, CommonSQL or PLOB!  Is
> there any other option available (commercial or not) for an object
> oriented database with a Lisp interface?  And on, Statice doesn't
> count. ;)

There used to be the Itasca OODBS, from IBEX Knowledge Systems S.A.
(originally from MCC's Orion project, I believe). Lately they have
stopped marketing it as a product, though their own current product (a
"project portfolio manager") is based on it. I don't know whether they
would be willing to still sell it as a separate component.

www.ibex.ch
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From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
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>>>>> On 5 Nov 2002 04:42:17 -0800, Jules F Grosse ("Jules") writes:
 Jules> Statice doesn't count. ;)

Why not?
From: Raymond Wiker
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
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······@dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:

> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2002 04:42:17 -0800, Jules F Grosse ("Jules") writes:
>  Jules> Statice doesn't count. ;)
> 
> Why not?

        Probably doesn't have a Symbolics setup, poor guy.

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From: Christopher C. Stacy
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <uk7jrz1zp.fsf@dtpq.com>
>>>>> On 05 Nov 2002 20:04:51 +0100, Raymond Wiker ("Raymond") writes:

 Raymond> ······@dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
 >> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2002 04:42:17 -0800, Jules F Grosse ("Jules") writes:
 Jules> Statice doesn't count. ;)
 >> 
 >> Why not?

 Raymond>         Probably doesn't have a Symbolics setup, poor guy.

Statice was ported years ago to conventional hardware: it runs on 
one of the commercial systems, though I can't remember whether it 
was Xanalys, Franz, or maybe even Lucid (now Xanalys).

Or am I hallucinating?
From: Heiko Kirschke
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <47b63c30.0211070319.2c110d2@posting.google.com>
······@dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) wrote in message news:<·············@dtpq.com>...
> >>>>> On 05 Nov 2002 20:04:51 +0100, Raymond Wiker ("Raymond") writes:
> 
>  Raymond> ······@dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
>  >> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2002 04:42:17 -0800, Jules F Grosse ("Jules") writes:
>  Jules> Statice doesn't count. ;)
>  >> 
>  >> Why not?
> 
>  Raymond>         Probably doesn't have a Symbolics setup, poor guy.
> 
> Statice was ported years ago to conventional hardware: it runs on 
> one of the commercial systems, though I can't remember whether it 
> was Xanalys, Franz, or maybe even Lucid (now Xanalys).
> 
> Or am I hallucinating?

If I remember right, Rainer Joswig had plans to do some work
on Statice, but I don't recall if it was porting it too to
some platform or further developing it to a new release.

-- Heiko
From: Robert Roff�
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <ar3qq0$o04$1@news-reader11.wanadoo.fr>
"Christopher C. Stacy" <······@dtpq.com> a �crit dans le message de news:
·············@dtpq.com...
> >>>>> On 05 Nov 2002 20:04:51 +0100, Raymond Wiker ("Raymond") writes:
>
>  Raymond> ······@dtpq.com (Christopher C. Stacy) writes:
>  >> >>>>> On 5 Nov 2002 04:42:17 -0800, Jules F Grosse ("Jules") writes:
>  Jules> Statice doesn't count. ;)
>  >>
>  >> Why not?
>
>  Raymond>         Probably doesn't have a Symbolics setup, poor guy.
>
> Statice was ported years ago to conventional hardware: it runs on
> one of the commercial systems, though I can't remember whether it
> was Xanalys, Franz, or maybe even Lucid (now Xanalys).
>
> Or am I hallucinating?
From: Jules F. Grosse
Subject: Re: Object oriented database in Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <17c920a6.0211070426.2d360bc9@posting.google.com>
> Not considering AllegroStore, UncommonSQL, CommonSQL or PLOB!  Is
> there any other option available (commercial or not) for an object
> oriented database with a Lisp interface?  And on, Statice doesn't
> count. ;)

I take from the lack of answers that this is indeed an open topic.

Another way to take a look a this is to construct mappings between
CLOS and one of {Java, C++, Smalltalk, whatever} and use the options
available for those languages, languages issues aside (no, NOT C++! :)

Would that be feasible?