i'm looking for the ftp location for youtoo eulisp. the pointer from
its homespace points to neverland... [what happened to eulisp? noone
uses it? seemed that it was aiming for a more practical space scheme
would not go for...]
oz
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On Fri, May 10, 2002 at 09:44:58PM -0400, ozan s yigit wrote:
> i'm looking for the ftp location for youtoo eulisp. the pointer from
> its homespace points to neverland... [what happened to eulisp? noone
> uses it? seemed that it was aiming for a more practical space scheme
> would not go for...]
>
I managed to locate the source a while back, but I don't remember how
I obtained it. So here's my copy of it:
http://emu.res.cmu.edu/~mrd/youtoo0.93.tar.gz
(this will only be available for the next week or so, as I am moving soon).
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ozan s yigit <··@blue.cs.yorku.ca> wrote in message news:<···············@blue.cs.yorku.ca>...
> i'm looking for the ftp location for youtoo eulisp. the pointer from
> its homespace points to neverland...
Yes, it looks like it disappeared. I've written to Julian Padget
to see if it can be recovered. (He was very helpful when the youtoo
home page disappeared a while back.)
I've also made the youtoo distribution and the EuLisp definition 0.99
available from my home page:
http://tkb.mpl.com/~tkb/software.html
I've run it recently on FreeBSD 4.4 and reasonably recently on Linux,
so if you have difficulty getting it to run you can send me some
e-mail. Although it's not normally necessary, if you need to
bootstrap it from the EuLisp source files you'll need some
additional tools that were accidently left out of the original
distribution, and I have reverse-engineered versions of those
that seem to work.
> [what happened to eulisp? noone uses it?
Well, there's at least one commercial application written in it.
I've corresponed briefly with the author of it, who wrote his
own Eulisp implementation.
> seemed that it was aiming for a more practical space scheme
> would not go for...]
Yes, it seemed like a good fit for that space, too. It's
not quite the same space that Common Lisp fills, either.
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T. Kurt Bond wrote:
> ozan s yigit <··@blue.cs.yorku.ca> wrote in message news:<···············@blue.cs.yorku.ca>...
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>>[what happened to eulisp? noone uses it?
>
>
> Well, there's at least one commercial application written in it.
> I've corresponed briefly with the author of it, who wrote his
> own Eulisp implementation.
Hmm, that was why I stuck with Scheme (even though I knew I'd end up
using unportable compiler extensions). CL looked too difficult for
"hobby programming", although I'm starting to play with it now.
>>seemed that it was aiming for a more practical space scheme
>>would not go for...]
>
>
> Yes, it seemed like a good fit for that space, too. It's
> not quite the same space that Common Lisp fills, either.
This seems as good a time as any to ask about something that's been
bothering me. EuLisp and ISLisp seem to be targetted at the same
applications (somewhere between Scheme and CL), so when would you pick
one over the other? No religious wars please ...
TIA
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Darren Bane <······@blackhole.ir.intel.com> wrote in message news:<················@blackhole.ir.intel.com>...
> This seems as good a time as any to ask about something that's been
> bothering me. EuLisp and ISLisp seem to be targetted at the same
> applications (somewhere between Scheme and CL), so when would you pick
> one over the other? No religious wars please ...
EuLisp has modules, threads, and a metaobject protocol, all of which
(I think) were left out of ISLisp.
ISLisp has at least one commercial implementation, and a completed
definition. As far as I know, there are no commercial implementations
of EuLisp (although EuLisp has been used in commercial work) and the
EuLisp definition was never completed.
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