From: Howard Stearns
Subject: Lisp job at ITA
Date: 
Message-ID: <3B587F64.195576AC@curl.com>
There seems to be a good opening at
http://www.itasoftware.com/careers.html

FWIW, I became aware of this by looking at a link to
http://www.franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.php3,
which was sent out in a Franz informational email.  It can pay to be on
such lists.

From: ········@hex.net
Subject: Re: Lisp job at ITA
Date: 
Message-ID: <h2Z67.5933$PA1.852364@news20.bellglobal.com>
Howard Stearns <·······@curl.com> writes:
> There seems to be a good opening at
> http://www.itasoftware.com/careers.html

They're doing one bit of oversales; having had some contacts in the
area, I am aware that the "low-fare search applications" are not
necessarily written in PL/1, and mainframe-hosted, but might well be
written in Java, and be hosted on, oh, say, SGI boxes...

> FWIW, I became aware of this by looking at a link to
> http://www.franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.php3,
> which was sent out in a Franz informational email.  It can pay to be
> on such lists.

Probably so...
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From: Tim Moore
Subject: Re: Lisp job at ITA
Date: 
Message-ID: <9jho7p$rj$0@216.39.145.192>
On Mon, 23 Jul 2001 ········@hex.net wrote:

> Howard Stearns <·······@curl.com> writes:
> > FWIW, I became aware of this by looking at a link to
> > http://www.franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.php3,
> > which was sent out in a Franz informational email.  It can pay to be
> > on such lists.
> 
> Probably so...

Speaking from recent personal experience,
http://www.franz.com/careers/jobs/outside/ is a great resource for Lisp
jobs.  Don't be put off by the apparent staleness of some of the ads;
these openings don't seem to be filled quickly.

Apropos of nothing, a recent unscientific survey on my part puts the
ratio of the world-wide availability of Java jobs to Lisp jobs at around
500:1.  However, I don't find this unsettling in the least.  The quality
of the Lisp jobs in terms of hard problems, interesting work and
compensation seem to be excellent, while most Java jobs I glanced at
look like total crap: "Build a database-backed website with
buzzword-enabled technology."

Tim
From: ···@itasoftware.com
Subject: Re: Lisp job at ITA
Date: 
Message-ID: <k80x2fmy.fsf@itasoftware.com>
········@hex.net writes:

> Howard Stearns <·······@curl.com> writes:
> > There seems to be a good opening at
> > http://www.itasoftware.com/careers.html
> 
> They're doing one bit of oversales; having had some contacts in the
> area, I am aware that the "low-fare search applications" are not
> necessarily written in PL/1, and mainframe-hosted, but might well be
> written in Java, and be hosted on, oh, say, SGI boxes...

ITA's low-fare search engine is coded in Lisp, and the primary
implementors have no interest in re-coding it in any other language.
Some components of the system which have to be fast, but not very
clever (for instance, the component that parses the raw airline
schedule data into a useable form) are written in C, and the applet
on the web site is written in Java, of course, but Lisp will always
be part of the core technology.

> > FWIW, I became aware of this by looking at a link to
> > http://www.franz.com/success/customer_apps/data_mining/itastory.php3,
> > which was sent out in a Franz informational email.  It can pay to be
> > on such lists.

Unfortunately, as you may deduce from this posting, Content Integrity
was one of the casualties of the panic over the economy.