From: Weidong Wang
Subject: Any one doing the similar thing?
Date: 
Message-ID: <39DFEFBB.FA1DD055@ra.msstate.edu>
Hi,
I am a new comer in Lisp. My programming languages are C/C++ and
Fortran. I am currently using a 3D modeling package named Mirai to
develop some visualization of human body movement. Mirai is said to be a
hi-end package for 3D modeling, and has a Lisp API. It uses Emacs and
ACL. Not many people use it, since it's hard to learn. Even fewer people
use Lisp to develop something from it. I am the one who use Mirai's Lisp
API to develop such visualizations.
I'm not CS major, but have sufficient programming background in
computation. I found it very hard for me to sink in, since there's no
documentation about the Lisp API. I have to dig little by little through
apropos and describe facilities. Just wondering if there are any other
people doing similar thing? It will be nice if I can find some other
people in such job.

Weidong Wang

From: David Bakhash
Subject: Re: Any one doing the similar thing?
Date: 
Message-ID: <m23di7qok6.fsf@cadet.dsl.speakeasy.net>
Weidong Wang <···@ra.msstate.edu> writes:

> I am currently using a 3D modeling package named Mirai to develop
> some visualization of human body movement. Mirai is said to be a
> hi-end package for 3D modeling, and has a Lisp API. It uses Emacs
> and ACL.

That's definitely one of the cooler CL-based applications I've noticed 
on Franz's site.  

> use Mirai's Lisp API to develop such visualizations.  I'm not CS
> major, but have sufficient programming background in computation. I
> found it very hard for me to sink in, since there's no documentation
> about the Lisp API. I have to dig little by little through apropos
> and describe facilities. Just wondering if there are any other
> people doing similar thing? It will be nice if I can find some other
> people in such job.

yeah.  looking at the site:

http://www.nichimen.com/mirai/index.shtml

I didn't see any docs either.  Did you consider emailing the company,
asking them if they had more documentation?  For about $6,500 or
whatever they're charging for that software, there should be ample
documentation.  Of course, they might have documented everything
except the API and extensions, such as how to use the GUI interface,
how to do basic, non-program-related stuff, which is what most people
do, since only a small fraction of users write serious code in the
environment (kinda like emacs -- a relatively small percentage of
emacs users will ever use defun).

If you do find on-line docs for this application, I'd be very
interested in seeing the API.  Please post the link, if you ever find
it.

dave
From: Weidong Wang
Subject: Re: Any one doing the similar thing?
Date: 
Message-ID: <39E125FD.2A0D9412@ra.msstate.edu>
Hello,
Glad to see another person interested in Mirai. I have asked them before,
and they don't have published documentations. I also went to their booth
in SIGGGRAPH, hoping to get more information, but failed. They suggested
me to post questions on Mirai's discussion group. I got some reply there,
but still want to know more of the API. I really want to use this package
to do some motion simulations of human body.
Mirai's users are a mall group I think, and even fewer people are using
the Lisp API. I knew a person who's really an expert in
this package. He helped me a lot to get started, but things are just too
hard and time-consuming without documentations. I spent much time and
worked out only some small pieces of code.
As far as I know, there is no such documentation online. You may check
Mirai's discussion group to see some posts.
Weidong
From: Bill Hunter
Subject: Re: Any one doing the similar thing?
Date: 
Message-ID: <7jq6usoeapvi36tur3bdd017oiu8roqbl3@4ax.com>
IRIS Explorer from the Numerical Algorithms Group (NAG) uses a Scheme
implementation they call skm which is accessible to the package user
.. more of a data visualization package than a 3D modelling package
but it may be of some interest to folks.

See http://www.nag.com/visual/ie/iecbb/product.html


On Sat, 07 Oct 2000 22:53:32 -0500, Weidong Wang <···@ra.msstate.edu>
wrote:

>Hi,
...
>apropos and describe facilities. Just wondering if there are any other
>people doing similar thing? It will be nice if I can find some other
>people in such job.
>
>Weidong Wang
From: Andrew K. Wolven
Subject: Re: Any one doing the similar thing?
Date: 
Message-ID: <39E62299.5797744C@redfernlane.org>
I am developing in both Mirai and ACL by itself.  There is a lack of
adequate developer documentation for the latest version (1.1).  Do you have
the old Wide Open World docs for NWorld 3.2?  Thats the best I have at this
time.  The (geo) API has changed since, and there is no documentation for
Paint.  I am leaning on Winged Edge Technologies to find out how to come up
with this.  (theoretically, I paid for it)  I have some very basic info they
gave me on how to use the UI (HI/HIOS) API if you would like me to condense
that and forward it to you.

Andrew K. Wolven

Weidong Wang wrote:

> Hi,
> I am a new comer in Lisp. My programming languages are C/C++ and
> Fortran. I am currently using a 3D modeling package named Mirai to
> develop some visualization of human body movement. Mirai is said to be a
> hi-end package for 3D modeling, and has a Lisp API. It uses Emacs and
> ACL. Not many people use it, since it's hard to learn. Even fewer people
> use Lisp to develop something from it. I am the one who use Mirai's Lisp
> API to develop such visualizations.
> I'm not CS major, but have sufficient programming background in
> computation. I found it very hard for me to sink in, since there's no
> documentation about the Lisp API. I have to dig little by little through
> apropos and describe facilities. Just wondering if there are any other
> people doing similar thing? It will be nice if I can find some other
> people in such job.
>
> Weidong Wang