Richard James Panturis Giuly <······@surfsouth.com> writes:
> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
Many have responded with several names, all of which I have
heard and recognize it by. My two favorites are "Sharpsign"
(because it is what Common Lisp calls it in the spec,
sec 2.4.8) and "Scratch" (because it is by far the easiest for
me to say).
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Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
>
> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
Sharp?
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Jochen Schmidt wrote:
>
> Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> >
> > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> Sharp?
>
Hash
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Dr Nick Levine <·······@beta.csd.anglia.ac.uk> writes:
> Jochen Schmidt wrote:
> >
> > Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> > >
> > > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
> >
> > Sharp?
> >
>
> Hash
Cancelletto? Diesis? :)
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Marco Antoniotti wrote:
>
> Dr Nick Levine <·······@beta.csd.anglia.ac.uk> writes:
>
> > Jochen Schmidt wrote:
> > >
> > > Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> > > >
> > > > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > > > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
> > >
> > > Sharp?
> > >
> >
> > Hash
>
> Cancelletto? Diesis? :)
>
Raute ! ;)
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From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
Message-ID: <38D0B14B.98B829C6@iname.com>
Jochen Schmidt wrote:
> Marco Antoniotti wrote:
> >
> > Dr Nick Levine <·······@beta.csd.anglia.ac.uk> writes:
> >
> > > Jochen Schmidt wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > > > > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
> > > >
> > > > Sharp?
> > > >
> > >
> > > Hash
> >
> > Cancelletto? Diesis? :)
> >
>
> Raute ! ;)
Die`se! ;)
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From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
Message-ID: <38D0B192.4DB47AC5@iname.com>
"Fernando D. Mato Mira" wrote:
> Jochen Schmidt wrote:
>
> > Marco Antoniotti wrote:
> > >
> > > Dr Nick Levine <·······@beta.csd.anglia.ac.uk> writes:
> > >
> > > > Jochen Schmidt wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > > > > > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
> > > > >
> > > > > Sharp?
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > > Hash
> > >
> > > Cancelletto? Diesis? :)
> > >
> >
> > Raute ! ;)
>
> Die`se! ;)
Cardinal ;)
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Kenny Tilton <·······@nyc.rr.com> writes:
> pound
If you pronounce "#" as "pound", how do you pronounce "�"?
Anyway, the anglofobes around here tend to pronounce it "skigard",
which is norwegian for a type of fence that look like this: ########
Stig Hemmer,
Jack of a Few Trades.
Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
This is the `hash' symbol and makes #! at the start of a shell script
`hash bang'.
Cheers,
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Will Deakin <···········@hotmail.com> wrote:
> Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> This is the `hash' symbol and makes #! at the start of a shell
> script `hash bang'.
#|
Don't forget "hash pipe"
|#
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In article <············@nnrp1.deja.com>, Will Deakin wrote:
>Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
>> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
>> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
>This is the `hash' symbol and makes #! at the start of a shell script
>`hash bang'.
Yes, and #!/bin/bash is thus pronounced "hash bang slash bin slash bash".
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* Richard James Panturis Giuly <······@surfsouth.com>
| In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the # symbol? That
| is, what do you call it?
in the ANSI standard, it is called "number sign", which is the official
nomenclature of the standards bodies, or "sharpsign".
#:Erik
Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
I've always called it (and heard it called around me) "sharpsign".
Richard> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
Richard> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
OK, I think the only term not listed so far is 'pound sign', which apparently
is/was also used. Pretty confusingly, I'd say. The only connection I can see
is that shift-3 usually correponds to '#', whereas on British keyboards
shift-3 is � (i.e. the stylized L currency symbol) ... ah well,
Philip
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Philip Lijnzaad <········@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
> Richard> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> Richard> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> OK, I think the only term not listed so far is 'pound sign', which
> apparently is/was also used. Pretty confusingly, I'd say. The only
> connection I can see is that shift-3 usually correponds to '#',
> whereas on British keyboards shift-3 is � (i.e. the stylized L
> currency symbol) ... ah well,
I seem to recall it being called an `octothorp' the last time this
discussion went around (I don't think it was here).
Cheers,
M.
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In article <··············@atrus.jesus.cam.ac.uk>,
Michael Hudson <·····@cam.ac.uk> wrote:
>Philip Lijnzaad <········@ebi.ac.uk> writes:
>
>> Richard> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
>> Richard> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>>
>> OK, I think the only term not listed so far is 'pound sign', which
>> apparently is/was also used. Pretty confusingly, I'd say. The only
>> connection I can see is that shift-3 usually correponds to '#',
>> whereas on British keyboards shift-3 is � (i.e. the stylized L
>> currency symbol) ... ah well,
>
>I seem to recall it being called an `octothorp' the last time this
>discussion went around (I don't think it was here).
Please note that the OP said "in the context of lisp". We all know that
this symbol has many names, depending on the context. In Lisp it's
specifically used as the prefix of a bunch of reader macros, and that's the
sense he's asking about.
In my 20 years of using Lisp I've never heard it called anything but
"sharpsign", sometimes "sharp" for short when used in combination
(e.g. "#." would be pronounced "sharp-dot"). Zetalisp had a function
SETSYNTAX-SHARP-MACRO to assign them -- Common Lisp generalized this into
SET-DISPATCH-MACRO-CHARACTER.
CLTL seems to avoid referring to the character by any name -- it simply
uses the character itself throughout the text. The word "sharp" appears in
the index only as part of "sharp apostrophe", referring to a page where
closures are described and the #' abbreviation for FUNCTION is mentioned,
although the phrase itelf doesn't appear in the text on that page; it says
"# followed by an apostrophe" -- it's pretty interesting that it uses the
symbol "#" but the word "apostrophe". I suspect Guy was sensitive to the
fact that this symbol has many names and people may not recognize
"sharpsign" (this term comes from music notation, and it would hardly be
appropriate to assume the reader knows how to read music).
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Philip Lijnzaad wrote:
>
> Richard> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> Richard> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> OK, I think the only term not listed so far is 'pound sign', which apparently
> is/was also used. Pretty confusingly, I'd say. The only connection I can see
> is that shift-3 usually correponds to '#', whereas on British keyboards
> shift-3 is � (i.e. the stylized L currency symbol) ... ah well,
I have always called it "pound sign" and I have seen # used as an abbreviation
for weight e.g. 5# bag of flour
From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
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Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
> In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> symbol? That is, what do you call it?
I never called it!
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From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
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"Fernando D. Mato Mira" wrote:
>
> I never called it!
I say things like "plus ignore", in the same manner I always liked
saying say "wuwuwu sgi com" (eventually, "worldwideweb")
["double u double u double u" ? "dot"? Pleazze! Even the "com" goes away
sometimes]
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Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
> ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
But does anybody know what you're talking about?
;) will
From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
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William Deakin wrote:
> Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
>
> > ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> > (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
>
> But does anybody know what you're talking about?
If it was just regarding Web sites.. ;)
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William Deakin <·····@pindar.com> writes:
> Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
>
> > ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> > (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
>
> But does anybody know what you're talking about?
Moe or Larry cointanly would. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.
From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: ~: [NOISE] was: stupid question regarding #
Date:
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Joe Marshall wrote:
> William Deakin <·····@pindar.com> writes:
>
> > Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
> >
> > > ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> > > (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
> >
> > But does anybody know what you're talking about?
>
> Moe or Larry cointanly would. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.
~ : "wiggle", or even "go to wiki-wiki matomira" ;)
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Do you ever get that feeling that you really, really wished you hadn't
asked?
Yo! Homie!
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Date:
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Will Deakin wrote:
> Do you ever get that feeling that you really, really wished you hadn't
> asked?
What does "cd kwik kwik" mean? ;->
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Joe Marshall <·········@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> William Deakin <·····@pindar.com> writes:
>
> > Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
> >
> > > ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> > > (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
> >
> > But does anybody know what you're talking about?
>
> Moe or Larry cointanly would. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.
>
Ah, a wise guy, eh... *POINK*
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> Joe Marshall <·········@alum.mit.edu> wrote in message
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> > William Deakin <·····@pindar.com> writes:
> >
> > > Fernando D. Mato Mira wrote:
> > >
> > > > ...in the same manner I always like saying say "wuwuwu sgi com"
> > > > (eventually, "worldwideweb")...
> > >
> > > But does anybody know what you're talking about?
> >
> > Moe or Larry cointanly would. Nyuk Nyuk Nyuk.
> >
>
> Ah, a wise guy, eh... *POINK*
OW!....
Oh no! I can't see! I can't see!
Fernando Mato Mira:
I always liked saying say "wuwuwu sgi com" (eventually, "worldwideweb")
["double u double u double u" ? "dot"? Pleazze!
Doonesbury's derisive nickname for the putative Republican presidential
nominee suggests another replacement for "double u double u double u,"
namely: "dubya-dubya-dubya," or even "dub-dub-dubya." The latter seemed to
be understood perfectly (and without conscious notice) by the last couple of
people I tried it on.
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From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: stupid question regarding #
Date:
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Larry Hunter wrote:
> namely: "dubya-dubya-dubya," or even "dub-dub-dubya." The latter seemed to
"yabadabadoo yahoo dot com" ?
"Scoobie Doo wanadoo ef er" ?
;)
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> > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> I never called it!
Here, kitty, kitty, kitty...
"Fernando D. Mato Mira" <········@iname.com> writes:
> Richard James Panturis Giuly wrote:
>
> > In the context of lisp, what is the pronunciation of the #
> > symbol? That is, what do you call it?
>
> I never called it!
You can't easily call it, either:
(funcall '# nil)
Error: Illegal sharp character #\space
[condition type: READER-ERROR]
(funcall # nil)
Error: Illegal sharp character #\space
[condition type: READER-ERROR]
Of course, if you use "|#|" or intern, you can call it:
(defun |#| () "" nil)
(funcall (intern "#"))
NIL
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