From: Jorge Tavares
Subject: docs on ACL IDE
Date: 
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.9909301742010.1154-100000@student.dei.uc.pt>
	Hello !

	I'm starting a project using GA which needs to have an interface
	built by ACL. Since i'm new to Lisp and specially the IDE on the
	ACL, could anybody please tell where I can find documents, web
	pages or any other kind of information dealing with the ACL IDE ?

	I've read the tutorial and the user guide but I found them quite
	insuficcient.

	If somebody could help me I would really aprecciate !


	Best Regards,
	Jorge Tavares

	
PS - please, e-mail me the answers because I am having problems in
acessing this newsgroups. Thanks again.


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From: Christopher R. Barry
Subject: Re: docs on ACL IDE
Date: 
Message-ID: <87aeq4owqo.fsf@2xtreme.net>
Jorge Tavares <····@student.dei.uc.pt> writes:

> 	Hello !
> 
> 	I'm starting a project using GA which needs to have an interface
> 	built by ACL. Since i'm new to Lisp and specially the IDE on the
> 	ACL, could anybody please tell where I can find documents, web
> 	pages or any other kind of information dealing with the ACL IDE ?
> 
> 	I've read the tutorial and the user guide but I found them quite
> 	insuficcient.

??? In what way? You sound more like you are in need of a basic Lisp
tutorial. You can visit http://www.lisp.org/ and hopefully find
something usable, but you should invest in a good book like Paul
Graham's _Ansi Common Lisp_ if you intend to do Lisp programming
seriously. (And for genetic algorithms I would imagine you would have
to.)

Christopher
From: Jorge Tavares
Subject: Re: docs on ACL IDE
Date: 
Message-ID: <Pine.OSF.4.10.9910011334520.5045-100000@student.dei.uc.pt>
On Thu, 30 Sep 1999, Christopher R. Barry wrote:
> 
> ??? In what way? You sound more like you are in need of a basic Lisp
> tutorial. You can visit http://www.lisp.org/ and hopefully find
> something usable, but you should invest in a good book like Paul
> Graham's _Ansi Common Lisp_ if you intend to do Lisp programming
> seriously. (And for genetic algorithms I would imagine you would have
> to.)
> 
> Christopher
> 

	Hi,

	Maybe I wasn't very clear on my intentions but the facts are:
	1) I don't need a book or tutorial ABOUT LISP
	2) I've already coded IN LISP a GA, which is working very well.
	3) What I want now is to make a GRAPHICAL INTERFACE for the GA
           coded before. 

	Do you see now ? What I need is a book or tutorial about making
	a graphical interface for windows using the Allegro Common Lisp
	5.0 . I something that describes how I work with buttons, combo
	boxes, bitmap-windows, and other GRAPHICAL COMPONENTS ! 

	I've already draw the forms and placed some components that
	interact with my GA but some components don'twork the way I want.
	Another example of my needs is making a graph about the evolution
	in a window but how do i draw to it ? 
	
	See ? These are questions about GRAPHICAL COMPONENTS and not about
	LISP itself !

	If you could help, or anybody else, I would be really apreciatte.


	Best Regards,
	Jorge Tavares

-= Jorge Tavares =- 
-= ····@student.dei.uc.pt =- -= 0936 6669824 =-
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From: Eugene Zaikonnikov
Subject: Re: docs on ACL IDE
Date: 
Message-ID: <938785413.524389@lxms.cit.org.by>
> Maybe I wasn't very clear on my intentions but the facts are:
> 1) I don't need a book or tutorial ABOUT LISP
> 2) I've already coded IN LISP a GA, which is working very well.
> 3) What I want now is to make a GRAPHICAL INTERFACE for the GA
>            coded before.
>
> Do you see now ? What I need is a book or tutorial about making
> a graphical interface for windows using the Allegro Common Lisp
> 5.0 . I something that describes how I work with buttons, combo
> boxes, bitmap-windows, and other GRAPHICAL COMPONENTS !
>
> I've already draw the forms and placed some components that
> interact with my GA but some components don'twork the way I want.
> Another example of my needs is making a graph about the evolution
> in a window but how do i draw to it ?
>
> See ? These are questions about GRAPHICAL COMPONENTS and not about
> LISP itself !

It shouldn't be very hard to get Common Graphics work if you know enough of
CLOS and Win32.
If you have any problems with specific controls, it is useful to describe
what you are tried to do and how, then people here probably could help you.
Alternatively, you may ask on the Allegro mailing list.
··················@CS.Berkeley.EDU
And I believe that ACL Professional comes with printed documentation,
although it does costs some money.
Anyway, there is absolutely no reason to shout so loudly.

Regards,
    Eugene.
From: Eugene Zaikonnikov
Subject: Re: docs on ACL IDE
Date: 
Message-ID: <938792656.672458@lxms.cit.org.by>
> > I've already draw the forms and placed some components that
> > interact with my GA but some components don'twork the way I want.
> > Another example of my needs is making a graph about the evolution
> > in a window but how do i draw to it ?

IIRC, there is a graph drawer among the ACL for Windows samples. With
sources. Something about evolution...

--
    Eugene.