From: Michael Dartt
Subject: Free X IDE for Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <37F9BCDF.9AF75EA2@hampshire.edu>
Is there a free (either "beer" or "libre") graphical IDE for UNIX Lisps
like
CLISP along the lines of MCL's or Allegro's?  (Basically, something that
allows one to format code nicely and easily have it interpreted.) 
Alternatively, can XEmacs interface with a Lisp (other than running a
bash shell) or run Lisp on its own with portable syntax?  (I've tried
RTFMs, but the on-line XEmacs docs don't help much.)



Thanks for your help.


--Mike

From: Tim Bradshaw
Subject: Re: Free X IDE for Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <ey3ln9ixaxi.fsf@lostwithiel.tfeb.org>
* Michael Dartt wrote:
> Alternatively, can XEmacs interface with a Lisp (other than running a
> bash shell) or run Lisp on its own with portable syntax?  (I've tried
> RTFMs, but the on-line XEmacs docs don't help much.)

ilisp is a reasonably competent lisp interface which will work in
xemacs.  It lives at ilisp.cons.org I think, and it's recently come
alive again after a fairly long fallow period which is good.

It's not a glamorous visual thing, but it does the trick, although
it's somewhat less integrated than the Franz system (eli).

--tim
From: Eugene Zaikonnikov
Subject: Re: Free X IDE for Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <37FA23AB.424680FA@cit.org.by>
Michael Dartt wrote:
> 
> Is there a free (either "beer" or "libre") graphical IDE for UNIX Lisps
> like
> CLISP along the lines of MCL's or Allegro's?  (Basically, something that
> allows one to format code nicely and easily have it interpreted.)
AFAIK no free dedicated Lisp IDEs for UN*X avaliable, but for the
requirements above Emacs is good enough.

> Alternatively, can XEmacs interface with a Lisp (other than running a
> bash shell) or run Lisp on its own with portable syntax?  (I've tried
> RTFMs, but the on-line XEmacs docs don't help much.)
> 
Looks like you need ILISP package by Marco Antoniotti:
http://ilisp.cons.org


Cheers,
  Eugene.
From: Marco Antoniotti
Subject: Re: Free X IDE for Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <lwso3o2a1k.fsf@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it>
Eugene Zaikonnikov <······@cit.org.by> writes:

> Michael Dartt wrote:
> > 
> > Is there a free (either "beer" or "libre") graphical IDE for UNIX Lisps
> > like
> > CLISP along the lines of MCL's or Allegro's?  (Basically, something that
> > allows one to format code nicely and easily have it interpreted.)
> AFAIK no free dedicated Lisp IDEs for UN*X avaliable, but for the
> requirements above Emacs is good enough.
> 
> > Alternatively, can XEmacs interface with a Lisp (other than running a
> > bash shell) or run Lisp on its own with portable syntax?  (I've tried
> > RTFMs, but the on-line XEmacs docs don't help much.)
> > 
> Looks like you need ILISP package by Marco Antoniotti:
> http://ilisp.cons.org

Just to clarify.  I am not the original author of the system.  I
cannot make such a claim to fame.  I am merely (one of) the
maintainers of the package.

Yes. It lives at http://ilisp.cons.org and it works also if you do not
have ACL.  It should also work with some of the 4.2 godzillion Scheme
implementations out there, but we have received little feedback from
Scheme users.

Cheers

-- 
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From: Sam Steingold
Subject: Re: Free X IDE for Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <uogecimcj.fsf@ksp.com>
>>>> In message <·················@hampshire.edu>
>>>> On the subject of "Free X IDE for Lisp"
>>>> Sent on Tue, 05 Oct 1999 08:54:55 +0000
>>>> Honorable Michael Dartt <·····@hampshire.edu> writes:
 >> Is there a free (either "beer" or "libre") graphical IDE for UNIX
 >> Lisps like CLISP along the lines of MCL's or Allegro's?  (Basically,
 >> something that allows one to format code nicely and easily have it
 >> interpreted.)  Alternatively, can XEmacs interface with a Lisp
 >> (other than running a bash shell) or run Lisp on its own with
 >> portable syntax?  (I've tried RTFMs, but the on-line XEmacs docs
 >> don't help much.)

what you want is something like hemlock (emacs-like editor on top of
cmucl - I have never used it) or CL-Emacs ("an Emacs implemented on top
of a solid Common Lisp system, with native compiler, dynamic loading of
foreign code, thread support, and all the other good stuff you find in
professional Common Lisp systems." - as announced by Erik
<http://www.naggum.no/erik/> in 1997 and on hold ever since)

Nothing like this exists in a usable form, but can probably be created
fairly quickly after a dedicated individual rolls out a working
prototype (Erik claimed to have created a "test of concept" prototype in
a couple of days in 1997).  I have code (GPLed) to load ELisp into ANSI
CL (see http://www.podval.org/~sds/data/cllib.zip - emacs.lsp), so we
will be able to use all the existing ELisp software from the start.

The poor (or lazy?) man's solution is either inferior-lisp or ilisp.

-- 
Sam Steingold (http://www.podval.org/~sds/)
Micros**t is not the answer.  Micros**t is a question, and the answer is Linux,
(http://www.linux.org) the choice of the GNU (http://www.gnu.org) generation.
Daddy, what does "format disk c: complete" mean?