Hi,
I went here,
http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
and saw something like a compiler called,
1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
Thanks Marcel
Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
> Hi,
> I went here,
> http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> and saw something like a compiler called,
> 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>
> Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
I don't recommend this approach for someone new to the language.
Both franz and harlequin have good-quality versions of their
commercialware available free. The obvious web sites apply. The free
stuff is featured fairly prominently, though they disagree on what to
call it. (Harlequin calls its free offering its "personal edition";
franz has a personal edition that costs but some other thing that's free.
Ignore the names and just read the descriptions.)
For an introductory text, try Paul Graham's ANSI Common Lisp
(as a stopgap until I get done writing my own book to supersede it. ;-)
For reference doc, see
http://www.harlequin.com/education/books/HyperSpec/FrontMatter/index.html
which is a webbed version that is essentially content-equivalent to the
ANSI CL specification.
Other info about Lisp (resources, jobs, mailing lists, faqs, etc.)
can be found at the Association of Lisp Users (ALU) interim home page, at:
http://www.elwoodcorp.com/alu/
Good luck.
Thanks a bunch Kent. I really appreciate it. Your info is really just the
ticket for me. Thanks. Marcel
Kent M Pitman wrote:
> Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> >
> > Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
>
> I don't recommend this approach for someone new to the language.
>
> Both franz and harlequin have good-quality versions of their
> commercialware available free. The obvious web sites apply. The free
> stuff is featured fairly prominently, though they disagree on what to
> call it. (Harlequin calls its free offering its "personal edition";
> franz has a personal edition that costs but some other thing that's free.
> Ignore the names and just read the descriptions.)
>
> For an introductory text, try Paul Graham's ANSI Common Lisp
> (as a stopgap until I get done writing my own book to supersede it. ;-)
>
> For reference doc, see
> http://www.harlequin.com/education/books/HyperSpec/FrontMatter/index.html
> which is a webbed version that is essentially content-equivalent to the
> ANSI CL specification.
>
> Other info about Lisp (resources, jobs, mailing lists, faqs, etc.)
> can be found at the Association of Lisp Users (ALU) interim home page, at:
> http://www.elwoodcorp.com/alu/
>
> Good luck.
Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
> Hi,
> I went here,
> http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> and saw something like a compiler called,
> 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.
> Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> Thanks Marcel
What OS/machine do you have?
The major lisp vendors have free versions to play with.
Windows:
http://www.harlequin.com/
http://www.franz.com/ (Linux too)
Mac:
http://www.digitool.com/
Though I think the demo version that digitool offers is very limited. Then
there are bunch of free lisps, which I will not attempt to describe. Check
the ALU site from the other posting for more information.
Sunil
Thanks again, Sunil. Like the old saying, free advice is good advice.
Newsgroups are great! Hearing things straight from the horse's mouth so to
speak. How did I live without newsgroup a while back, I wonder. thanks again.
Marcel
Sunil Mishra wrote:
> Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>
> TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.
>
> > Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> > Thanks Marcel
>
> What OS/machine do you have?
>
> The major lisp vendors have free versions to play with.
>
> Windows:
> http://www.harlequin.com/
> http://www.franz.com/ (Linux too)
>
> Mac:
> http://www.digitool.com/
>
> Though I think the demo version that digitool offers is very limited. Then
> there are bunch of free lisps, which I will not attempt to describe. Check
> the ALU site from the other posting for more information.
>
> Sunil
Sunil Mishra wrote:
> Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>
> TCL/Tk have little to do with lisp.
>
The `little' being STk:
http://kaolin.unice.fr/
Regards,
--
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Real-Time SW Eng & Networking
Advanced Systems Engineering Division
CSEM
Jaquet-Droz 1 email: matomira AT acm DOT org
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In article <···············@whizzy.cc.gatech.edu> , Sunil Mishra
<·······@whizzy.cc.gatech.edu> wrote:
[snip]
> Mac:
> http://www.digitool.com/
>
> Though I think the demo version that digitool offers is very limited.
The limitation is this: You get 15 minutes to use the MCL demo each time you
start it up. There's a floating timer window, so there are no surprises.
If you have a larger project such that you can't evaluate it in 15 minutes,
Digitool will grant you a temporary key that enables MCL demo for 30 days.
Aside from the time limit, the demo version is fully functional. Of course,
the CD-ROM comes with a few hundred megabytes of additional source,
documentation, examples, demos, etc.
--
David B. Lamkins <http://www.teleport.com/~dlamkins/>
Recently undead Isabelle to the archangel Gabriel in "The Prophecy II":
"So, you're keeping me alive because you don't know DOS?"
Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
> Hi,
> I went here,
> http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> and saw something like a compiler called,
> 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
>
> Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> Thanks Marcel
If you are in debian, may I suggest the CMUCL .deb. If you have apt
installed, which you should if you are running slink, then the
following command will install it:
apt-get cmucl
It is a Lisp system which is public domain so it will be in the Debian
proper, and since it is a .deb and not a tarball from somewhere else
you might find it easier to install/remove.
--
Craig Brozefsky <·····@red-bean.com>
Less matter, more form! - Bruno Schulz
Thanks Craig. I am truly grateful to everyone. Marcel
Craig Brozefsky wrote:
> Marcel K Haesok <······@earthlink.net> writes:
>
> > Hi,
> > I went here,
> > http://www.debian.org/Packages/stable/interpreters/gcl.html
> > and saw something like a compiler called,
> > 1.The Tool Command Language (TCL) v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> > 2. The Tk toolkit for TCL and X11 v8.0 - Run-Time Package.
> >
> > Is this a lisp compiler I ought to get? To learn Lisp?
> > Thanks Marcel
>
> If you are in debian, may I suggest the CMUCL .deb. If you have apt
> installed, which you should if you are running slink, then the
> following command will install it:
>
> apt-get cmucl
>
> It is a Lisp system which is public domain so it will be in the Debian
> proper, and since it is a .deb and not a tarball from somewhere else
> you might find it easier to install/remove.
>
> --
> Craig Brozefsky <·····@red-bean.com>
> Less matter, more form! - Bruno Schulz