From: Bruno Lintermans
Subject: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7c4pj2$sne$1@news.worldonline.nl>
hello

Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.
Merci

Bru
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From: Marco Antoniotti
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <lwyal5ahlq.fsf@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it>
"Bruno Lintermans" <············@worldonline.be> writes:

> hello
> 
> Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
> Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
> parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.
> Merci
> 
> Bru
> (Please mail)
> 

Puoi sempre provare Emacs. Non e` piccolo fa funziona anche per moltre
altre cose :)

Transl:
You can always try Emacs. It is not small but it works for many other
things too. :)

Cheers


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From: Bruno Lintermans
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7c5h2m$gat$1@news.worldonline.nl>
Marco Antoniotti a �crit dans le message ...
>
>"Bruno Lintermans" <············@worldonline.be> writes:
>
>> hello
>>
>> Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
>> Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
>> parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.
>> Merci
>>
>> Bru
>> (Please mail)
>>
>
>Puoi sempre provare Emacs. Non e` piccolo fa funziona anche per moltre
>altre cose :)
>
>Transl:
>You can always try Emacs. It is not small but it works for many other
>things too. :)
>
>Cheers
>


(sorry, I lost my head, French is not the only one talking language and
everybody don't talk necessarily French...)
Thank you for your answer, but I don't know what is Emacs.
Can you explain me with 3, 4 words.
From: Kent M Pitman
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <sfwn21la9ce.fsf@world.std.com>
[ Replying to comp.lang.lisp only.
  http://world.std.com/~pitman/pfaq/cross-posting.html ]

"Bruno Lintermans" <············@worldonline.be> writes:

> Thank you for your answer, but I don't know what is Emacs.
> Can you explain me with 3, 4 words.

Certainly...   "The definitive text editor."

Keywords: Featureful, Flexible/Customizable/Extensible, Freeware

Info: http://www.gnu.org/

Downloads: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/
From: Fernando D. Mato Mira
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <36E659A6.EC5C6AFE@iname.com>
Kent M Pitman wrote:

> Info: http://www.gnu.org/
>
> Downloads: ftp://ftp.gnu.org/pub/gnu/emacs/

 Il y a aussi Xemacs (http://www.xemacs.org/) qui est le favorit de
beaucoup de `lispers' et de plusieurs iimplementations aussi (Allegro
Common Lisp, ILOG Talk).

Il y a beaucoup d'editeurs qui font du `parenthesis matching', meme le
traditionnel `vi'.

Et oui, Lisp est adorablement `drole'. Bonne chance et amusez-vous bien
;-)

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From: Marco Antoniotti
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <lwk8wp1rrg.fsf@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it>
Kent M Pitman <······@world.std.com> writes:

> [ Replying to comp.lang.lisp only.
>   http://world.std.com/~pitman/pfaq/cross-posting.html ]
> 
> "Bruno Lintermans" <············@worldonline.be> writes:
> 
> > Thank you for your answer, but I don't know what is Emacs.
> > Can you explain me with 3, 4 words.
> 
> Certainly...   "The definitive text editor."

I usually use the appellative "The total application" :)

Cheers

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From: His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <w4oogm145af.fsf@nemesis.irtnog.org>
>>>>> "MA" == Marco Antoniotti <·······@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it> writes:

    MA> I usually use the appellative "The total application" :)

EMACS geek though I am, I prefer to describe it as "really fscking
huge".  :)

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Pope, Patron Saint of All Things Plastic fnord, and Salted Litter of r.g.s.b
"When I was a kid, I used to think that Dammit was God's last name, just like
Christ is Jesus' last name." - Kimberly Chapman in rec.humor.oracle.d
From: Tim Bradshaw
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <nkjk8wp2nd6.fsf@tfeb.org>
"His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated" <········@irtnog.org> writes:


> EMACS geek though I am, I prefer to describe it as "really fscking
> huge".  :)

Almost as large as Microsoft Word, in fact.
From: Harley Davis
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7c6flu$avc$1@ffx2nh3.news.uu.net>
>"His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated"
<········@irtnog.org> writes:
>
>
>> EMACS geek though I am, I prefer to describe it as "really fscking
>> huge".  :)
>
>Almost as large as Microsoft Word, in fact.

But just try and insert a clip art in your Lisp program.

-- Harley
From: Philip Lijnzaad
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <u7bti1yqch.fsf@ebi.ac.uk>
On Wed, 10 Mar 1999 11:07:26 -0800, 
"Harley" == Harley Davis <··············@spamless_ilog.com> writes:

>>> EMACS geek though I am, I prefer to describe it as "really fscking
>>> huge".  :)
>> 
>> Almost as large as Microsoft Word, in fact.

Harley> But just try and insert a clip art in your Lisp program.

Or try to crash either emacs or your computer from within emacs (emacs
19). Alternatively try opening and editing 2GB binary files in Word, or try
running a colour-coded-three way diff inside Word while running the debugger
and doing some fancy symbolic algebra in other windows.

Sorry, couldn't resist. 

And while we're at it, I think of emacs mostly as an operating system. I
remember somebody calling it a meso-kernel, which sounds even more sexy. 

                                                                      Philip

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From: His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <w4olnh452uz.fsf@nemesis.irtnog.org>
>>>>> "PL" == Philip Lijnzaad <········@ebi.ac.uk> writes:

    PL> Or try to crash either emacs or your computer from within
    PL> emacs (emacs 19).

I've actually done that.  :(

    PL> Sorry, couldn't resist.

Heh.

    PL> And while we're at it, I think of emacs mostly as an operating
    PL> system. I remember somebody calling it a meso-kernel, which
    PL> sounds even more sexy.

I've heard it called a full-screen shell, which is also kinda
accurate.  Once upon a time, when I was a much sicker individual than
I am now (praise "Bob"!), I had the following passwd entry:

xenophon:x:5015:5015:Xenophon Fenderson:/var/users/xenophon:/usr/bin/emacs

Fortunately for me, a friend (upon hacking root) promptly trundled me
off to Charter.  (Yeah, Charter has emacs-detox.  Who'd have guessed
it?  Basically, it was a bunch of XTs running MS-DOS 2.11.  The only
editors available were EDLIN and a really grungy port of VI.  And if
you merely mentioned Richard Stallman, you were forced to recite Xenix
kernel source code!  *shudder*)

-- 
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Pope, Patron Saint of All Things Plastic fnord, and Salted Litter of r.g.s.b
"When I was a kid, I used to think that Dammit was God's last name, just like
Christ is Jesus' last name." - Kimberly Chapman in rec.humor.oracle.d
From: Tim Bradshaw
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <nkjk8wolf4n.fsf@tfeb.org>
"Harley Davis" <··············@spamless_ilog.com> writes:


> But just try and insert a clip art in your Lisp program.

This is way off topic of course, but ... that works reasonably well
in xemacs (for suitable definition of `clip art').

--tim
From: Marco Antoniotti
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <lw1ziwqw3c.fsf@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it>
"Harley Davis" <··············@spamless_ilog.com> writes:

> >"His Holiness the Reverend Doktor Xenophon Fenderson, the Carbon(d)ated"
> <········@irtnog.org> writes:
> >
> >
> >> EMACS geek though I am, I prefer to describe it as "really fscking
> >> huge".  :)
> >
> >Almost as large as Microsoft Word, in fact.
> 
> But just try and insert a clip art in your Lisp program.

(with-noise-ahead
"
Well. Let's have the following context. The tool: MS Word 97. The
task: let's add a caption to a figure and have it stick to it while
having a reference to the caption in the text several pages ahead. Of
course the figure should be positioned - at least - as LaTeX does it.

Come on Bill, make my day! :)
")

Cheers

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From: Tim Bradshaw
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <nkjlnh52nmx.fsf@tfeb.org>
Marco Antoniotti <·······@copernico.parades.rm.cnr.it> writes:


> I usually use the appellative "The total application" :)

All sufficiently interesting programs are eventually reimplemented as
emacs subsystems.

--tim
From: Didier Boucard
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <36E656E9.2CFF3D69@labri.u-bordeaux.fr>
Bruno Lintermans wrote:
> (sorry, I lost my head, French is not the only one talking language and
> everybody don't talk necessarily French...)
> Thank you for your answer, but I don't know what is Emacs.
> Can you explain me with 3, 4 words.

c'est pas grave c'est un site fr.

emacs est un editeur de texte tres souple, en freeware et configurable
par des fichiers emacs LISP (ah tiens ...).
En fait, pour chaque type de fichier, on peut definir un comportement
de l'editeur et par defaut il fait la correspondance entre les
parentheses (crochets, etc) ouvrant et fermant.

Si j'ai bonne memoire, on doit pouvoir trouver une version pour win32
chez cygnus  http://www.cygnus.com/

pour une version unix, il y a plein de site. mais bon, si tu avais ete
sous unix, tu n'aurais pas pose cette question.

Didier.
From: Rolf-Thomas Happe
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <r5lnh5zguo.fsf@leonce.mathematik.uni-freiburg.de>
In article <············@news.worldonline.nl> "Bruno Lintermans"
writes:
   Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
   parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.

M^eme VI, l''editeur n'eolithique sous Unix, balance les parenth`eses
(si on le lui demande).  Moi, j'utilise GNU Emacs, 'editeur de texte,
psychoth'erapeute, machin universel.  Or, c'est pas petit.  GNU Emacs
devrait se trouver `a http://www.fsf.org/, quelque part.  Cf. aussi 
http://sourcery.naggum.no/emacs/.

rthappe

PS:
   Bru
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From: daniel rapp
Subject: Re: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
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Essaie : http://www.math.fu-berlin.de/~guckes/vim/

VIM poss�de un mode lisp, en couleur et param�trable...

Bruno Lintermans a �crit dans le message
<············@news.worldonline.nl>...
>hello
>
>Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
>Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
>parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.
>Merci
>
>Bru
>(Please mail)
>
>
From: Joseph Vallot
Subject: Re: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7cc5ql$9ct@neptune.axime-is.fr>
Bruno Lintermans a �crit dans le message
<············@news.worldonline.nl>...
>hello
>
>Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
>Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
>parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.


et hop! la r�ponse � 2 balles: prends Emacs (�a se trouve assez facilement,
et c'est dispo sur presque toutes les plateformes)

--
Joseph
From: Bruno Haible
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7c9mfk$29$1@news.u-bordeaux.fr>
> Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
> parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.

`aXe' and `nedit' both do parenthesis matching. Both are _small_ editors
running under X11.

                        Bruno
From: Bruno Lintermans
Subject: Re: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <7cmcuk$32c$1@news.worldonline.nl>
Merci...

Bruno
From: Guilhem de WAILLY
Subject: Re: req: �diteur de texte avec des ())((((())(
Date: 
Message-ID: <36F0CEC1.CE5B9A27@erian-concept.com>
Bruno Lintermans wrote:

> hello
>
> Tr�s dr�le, le lisp. (sisi)
> Si quelqu'un pouvait me fournir un petit �diteur de texte qui compte les
> parenth�ses � ma place, il me ferait le plus grand plaisir.
> Merci
>
> Bru
> (Please mail)

jed est compatible emacs, et plus petit.
ftp://space.mit.edu/pub/davis/jed

Cordialement

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