From: help
Subject: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <131219991552135840%prodos8@yahoo.com>
I've found the postscript version of Common Lisp, the Language, 2nd
edition, but does it exist in PDF form?  My copy of Distiller isn't
really working right now.  thanks.

From: Bulent Murtezaoglu
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <87n1reiifn.fsf@kapi.internal>
    help> I've found the postscript version of Common Lisp, the
    help> Language, 2nd edition, but does it exist in PDF form?  

To view postscript, try getting ghostscript/ghostview for Windows (or Unix).
A web search should point you to the proper site.

BM
From: Asbj�rn S�b�
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <m3iu213lve.fsf@lydlab227.tele.ntnu.no>
help <·······@yahoo.com> writes:

> I've found the postscript version of Common Lisp, the Language, 2nd
> edition, but does it exist in PDF form?  My copy of Distiller isn't
> really working right now.  thanks.

There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.

Asbj.S.
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From: Michael Dingler
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <385626EC.3CAA9705@mindless.com>
> > I've found the postscript version of Common Lisp, the Language, 2nd
> > edition, but does it exist in PDF form?  My copy of Distiller isn't
> > really working right now.  thanks.
> 
> There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.

Unless the PostScript file was generated by TeX...


...Michael...
From: Espen Vestre
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <w61z8pn4g1.fsf@wallace.nextel.no>
Michael Dingler <········@mindless.com> writes:

> > There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.
> 
> Unless the PostScript file was generated by TeX...

not necessarily, I have no problems with documents created by TeX (teTeX),
saved to ps with dvips (5.58f) and converted with ps2pdf (not quite sure of
the version).
-- 
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From: Michael Dingler
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <38563795.13AC4535@mindless.com>
> > > There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.
> >
> > Unless the PostScript file was generated by TeX...
> 
> not necessarily, I have no problems with documents created by TeX (teTeX),
> saved to ps with dvips (5.58f) and converted with ps2pdf (not quite sure of
> the version).

Using the bitmapped Computer Modern fonts?
(Ok, there's pdftex and dvipdm and you can always tell your TeX 
 distribution to use PostScript fonts)

...Michael...
From: help
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <141219991509025989%prodos8@yahoo.com>
In article <·················@mindless.com>, Michael Dingler
<········@mindless.com> wrote:

> > > > There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.
> > >
> > > Unless the PostScript file was generated by TeX...
> > 
> > not necessarily, I have no problems with documents created by TeX (teTeX),
> > saved to ps with dvips (5.58f) and converted with ps2pdf (not quite sure of
> > the version).
> 
> Using the bitmapped Computer Modern fonts?
> (Ok, there's pdftex and dvipdm and you can always tell your TeX 
>  distribution to use PostScript fonts)
> 
> ...Michael...

I have a copy of Acrobat Distiller, but it creates fuzzy, low quality
text for some reason from this postscript.  I may just not know how to
use it, but most of my work turns out perfectly.  This is why I've
asked for someone who has done a proper job.  I have used ghostscript
and its related tools, but they do no better.  thanks for your advice
nonetheless.
From: Matt Curtin
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <xlxk8mhcl6v.fsf@gold.cis.ohio-state.edu>
>>>>> On Tue, 14 Dec 1999 15:09:02 -0500, help <·······@yahoo.com> said:

prodos8?  As in Apple II ProDOS (renamed ProDOS 8 with the release of
ProDOS 16 for the IIgs)?

help> This is why I've asked for someone who has done a proper job.  I
help> have used ghostscript and its related tools, but they do no
help> better.

It would be optimal for the PDF to be generated from the LaTeX
sources, but that will take some hacking to convert the sources from
the well-deprecated LaTeX 2.09 to LaTeX 2e, thus making the use of
PDF*TeX possible.

This would probably be worthwhile for someone to do.  If it hasn't yet 
been done, I suspect I'll have some time on my hands in a few weeks
where I could probably do the job.

-- 
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From: Michael Dingler
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <3856A9A3.7DC0441D@mindless.com>
> I have a copy of Acrobat Distiller, but it creates fuzzy, low quality
> text for some reason from this postscript.  I may just not know how to
> use it, but most of my work turns out perfectly.  This is why I've
> asked for someone who has done a proper job.  I have used ghostscript
> and its related tools, but they do no better.  thanks for your advice
> nonetheless.

That's exactly what I expected. TeX doesn't use this new, overhyped
"scalable font" thingamajing that just recently became popular. You've
got to adapt your font for every font size, or the the Devils Of Bad
Typesetting will come and devour your soul...

No, serious, new TeX distributions either make it simple to use
your default PostScript fonts for the dvi documents, thus making
it possible to use the default tex -> dvips -> ps2pdf route, or
-- even better -- contain "pdftex" which produces PDF files
right from the start.

On the other hand, if you'll use antialiasing with ghostscript
or Acrobat, it's barely readable. Still bloated as hell...

...Michael...
From: help
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <161219991552082136%prodos8@yahoo.com>
In article <·················@mindless.com>, Michael Dingler
<········@mindless.com> wrote:

> > I have a copy of Acrobat Distiller, but it creates fuzzy, low quality
> > text for some reason from this postscript.  I may just not know how to
> > use it, but most of my work turns out perfectly.  This is why I've
> > asked for someone who has done a proper job.  I have used ghostscript
> > and its related tools, but they do no better.  thanks for your advice
> > nonetheless.
> 
> That's exactly what I expected. TeX doesn't use this new, overhyped
> "scalable font" thingamajing that just recently became popular. You've
> got to adapt your font for every font size, or the the Devils Of Bad
> Typesetting will come and devour your soul...
> 
> No, serious, new TeX distributions either make it simple to use
> your default PostScript fonts for the dvi documents, thus making
> it possible to use the default tex -> dvips -> ps2pdf route, or
> -- even better -- contain "pdftex" which produces PDF files
> right from the start.
> 
> On the other hand, if you'll use antialiasing with ghostscript
> or Acrobat, it's barely readable. Still bloated as hell...
> 
> ...Michael...

It seems as though it would be worthwile for someone to do what needs
to be done to get this document into a usable PDF file.  I'd do it if I
had TeX, a better knowledge of this sort of thing, etc, but I would not
be able to help.  Maybe the people who distribute the TeX and
PostScript source would do a PDF version that worked?  thanks.
From: Peter Chang
Subject: Re: Common Lisp, the Langauge in PDF form?
Date: 
Message-ID: <w9kg0x14o7e.fsf@reunion.irisa.fr>
In article <·················@mindless.com>, Michael Dingler
<········@mindless.com> wrote:

>> > > > There is a program called "ps2pdf" that might be useful.
>> > >
>> > > Unless the PostScript file was generated by TeX...
>> > 
>> > not necessarily, I have no problems with documents created by TeX (teTeX),
>> > saved to ps with dvips (5.58f) and converted with ps2pdf (not quite sure of
>> > the version).
>> 
>> Using the bitmapped Computer Modern fonts?

> I have a copy of Acrobat Distiller, but it creates fuzzy, low quality
> text for some reason from this postscript.  

The problem is that if you don't have t1 fonts for these tex will
create a bunch of type3 fonts which the acrobat viewer will render w/o
hints etc. 

\p
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