I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine (like TeX or
some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core part (like Emacs).
I plan to build a layout system (or typesetting syste; I don't know what's the
appropriate word) which is build on primitive layout elements implemented in
C, and has variuos applicabiliy using a small dialect of lisp. So such an
application can be build up with the engine, like a Web browser-like system
and can do many thing with the portable small lisp (like java or javascript
with web browsers).
Please let me know if there are something related, so that I can escape from
diving into a stone wall with my head :-)
On 17 Sep 1998 07:54:17 GMT, Lee Yong-Jae <·····@sable.snu.ac.kr> wrote:
>I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine (like TeX or
>some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core part (like Emacs).
>
There is something called markup which uses scheme and as a backend Latex
and html. It is availiable from:
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~spot/markup/markup.html.
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* Lee Yong-Jae wrote:
> I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine
> (like TeX or some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core
> part (like Emacs).
This isn't precisely what you are after, but you might look at our
`Formation' system, on which you can find information at:
http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/formation
This is a system for laying out classified directories -- `yellow
pages' -- which was developed here and is now in production use. (It
is not free.)
--tim
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Artificial Intelligence Applications Institute,
University of Edinburgh
From: Ola Rinta-Koski
Subject: Re: Is there Layout engine using LISP?
Date:
Message-ID: <gm3e9q7k9m.fsf@pluto.hex.fi>
Tim Bradshaw <···@aiai.ed.ac.uk> writes:
> * Lee Yong-Jae wrote:
> > I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine
> > (like TeX or some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core
> > part (like Emacs).
> This isn't precisely what you are after, but you might look at our
> `Formation' system, on which you can find information at:
>
> http://www.aiai.ed.ac.uk/project/formation
>
> This is a system for laying out classified directories -- `yellow
> pages' -- which was developed here and is now in production use. (It
> is not free.)
Curiously enough, see http://www.vtt.fi/tte/samba/projects/vip/index.htm
for more of the same.
Disclaimer: It's been quite a long while since I worked on the project.
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·····@sable.snu.ac.kr (Lee Yong-Jae) writes:
> I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine
> (like TeX or some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core
> part (like Emacs).
> I plan to build a layout system (or typesetting syste; I don't know
> what's the appropriate word) which is build on primitive layout
> elements implemented in C, and has variuos applicabiliy using a
> small dialect of lisp. So such an application can be build up with
> the engine, like a Web browser-like system and can do many thing
> with the portable small lisp (like java or javascript with web
> browsers).
> Please let me know if there are something related, so that I can
> escape from diving into a stone wall with my head :-)
If you use SGML/XML for the documents structure, then you can use
DSSSL (a descriptive "dialect" of Scheme) for layout control. Both
SGML and DSSSL are ISO standards. Jade is a working implementation of
parts of DSSSL, with backends for RTF, TeX and SGML/HTML.
See http://www.oasis-open.org/cover/ for information on SGML and XML,
and links to DSSSL, etc.
Also look for STIL (SGML Transformations in Lisp), which is a simple
start for hooking up SP -- an SGML Parser -- to Common Lisp.
Although DSSSL will probably not suffice for what you want to do (it
seems you want advanced scripting capabilities as well as layout
control), it could be interesting to include (a) DSSSL(-like language)
in your scripting language.
Regs, Pierre.
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"Such is life." -- Fiona in "Four Weddings and a Funeral" (UK/1994)
In article <············@news.kren.nm.kr>, ·····@sable.snu.ac.kr (Lee
Yong-Jae) wrote:
> I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine (like TeX or
> some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core part (like Emacs).
>
> I plan to build a layout system (or typesetting syste; I don't know what's the
> appropriate word) which is build on primitive layout elements implemented in
> C, and has variuos applicabiliy using a small dialect of lisp. So such an
> application can be build up with the engine, like a Web browser-like system
> and can do many thing with the portable small lisp (like java or javascript
> with web browsers).
>
> Please let me know if there are something related, so that I can escape from
> diving into a stone wall with my head :-)
The Symbolics Lisp machine has a document generation system called
Concordia. It generates electronic and printed versions.
The 10k+ pages of the Genera docs are written and
produced with Concordia. It should be part of the upcoming
Open Genera 2.0 for DEC Alpha machines.
·····@sable.snu.ac.kr (Lee Yong-Jae) writes:
> I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine (like TeX or
> some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core part (like Emacs).
interleaf
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·····@sable.snu.ac.kr (Lee Yong-Jae) writes:
>
> I hope to know about if there is any Layout or typesetting engine (like TeX or
> some HTML layout modules) which uses LISP as its core part (like Emacs).
>
> I plan to build a layout system (or typesetting syste; I don't know what's the
> appropriate word) which is build on primitive layout elements implemented in
> C, and has variuos applicabiliy using a small dialect of lisp. So such an
> application can be build up with the engine, like a Web browser-like system
> and can do many thing with the portable small lisp (like java or javascript
> with web browsers).
>
> Please let me know if there are something related, so that I can escape from
> diving into a stone wall with my head :-)
>
Joachim Schrod, author of STIL mentioned in this thread, wrote a
prototype of a next-generation TeX in LISP. Dunno how you'd contact
him, try the TeX user group, www.tug.org and I dunno if the code is
public.
From: Brent A Ellingson
Subject: Re: Is there Layout engine using LISP?
Date:
Message-ID: <6u8kfh$qtu$1@node2.nodak.edu>
Today, I came across this in comp.lang.lisp. Does anyone on the TeX
group know more about a possible TeX-like typesetting system in LISP?
Richard Tietjen (········@kale.connix.com) wrote:
: Joachim Schrod, author of STIL mentioned in this thread, wrote a
: prototype of a next-generation TeX in LISP. Dunno how you'd contact
: him, try the TeX user group, www.tug.org and I dunno if the code is
: public.
--
Brent Ellingson (········@badlands.NoDak.edu)
"It is amazing how complete is the delusion that beauty is goodness."
-- Leo Tolstoy
In article <············@node2.nodak.edu>,
Brent A Ellingson <········@badlands.NoDak.edu> wrote:
% Richard Tietjen (········@kale.connix.com) wrote:
%
% : Joachim Schrod, author of STIL mentioned in this thread, wrote a
% : prototype of a next-generation TeX in LISP. Dunno how you'd contact
% : him, try the TeX user group, www.tug.org and I dunno if the code is
% : public.
There was a plan to do the n-TeX prototype using CLOS, but my understanding
was that it was never actually written.
--
Patrick TJ McPhee
East York Canada
····@interlog.com
Not trying to start a flame war, and maybe this does not solve the
original poster's problem (because of cost, language issues, or any of
several other reasons), but for the sake of completeness I'd like to
note that Interleaf is written largely in LISP and certainly qualifies
as a layout engine.
From: Reini Urban
Subject: Re: Is there Layout engine using LISP?
Date:
Message-ID: <360bc37e.29240655@judy>
·····@sable.snu.ac.kr (Lee Yong-Jae) wrote:
>Please let me know if there are something related, so that I can escape from
>diving into a stone wall with my head :-)
there's "SchemaText WWW". with a demo downloadable from the web.
"a tool that enables large organizations to handle the
authoring and the maintenance of very large hypertexts and documents"
http://www.schema.de/html-eng/stcs/document/index1.htm
there are almost no english docs.
at http://www.w3.org/Conferences/WWW4/Papers2/145/ is a paper describing
the same system in english.
This is written in Allegro Common Lisp for Windows 3.02
They are even hiring.
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