From: Jeff Fohl
Subject: Lisp classes
Date: 
Message-ID: <351D6BC2.AB38B5CA@fohl.com>
Hi everyone -

I'm interested in taking a Lisp class - I'm a total beginner. Does
anyone know of any classes taught in the San Francisco Bay Area?

Thanks,

Jeff


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From: Rob Warnock
Subject: Re: Lisp classes
Date: 
Message-ID: <6fklhl$7gfvk@fido.asd.sgi.com>
Jeff Fohl  <····@fohl.com> wrote:
+---------------
| I'm interested in taking a Lisp class - I'm a total beginner.
| Does anyone know of any classes taught in the San Francisco Bay Area?
+---------------

(*chuckle*) Each time I get the announcement flyers for places like
The College Of San Mateo (etc.) and their extension and night classes,
I glance through to see what kind of computer courses they offer for
the public. Seems to be mostly (1) general introduction to computers
[e.g., how to surf the Web], or (2) how to use particular PC apps, or
(3) programming the currently "marketable" languages (C, C++, Java, VB, etc.).

But several SF Bay Area colleges (and at least one high school) *are*
teaching Lisp (well, most are teaching Scheme, but you could make the
transition to Common Lisp easily enough from that), if you can arrange
to audit one of their courses [or take it for credit, whatever]. According
to the Schemer's list <URL:http://www.schemers.com/schools.html>, the
following Bay Area schools teach Scheme:

	Lick-Wilmerding High School, San Francisco, CA
	     [No course info given]

	Mills College, Oakland, CA 
	     114/214: Programming Languages
	     [But only three lectures out of a full survey of languages]

	University of California, Berkeley 
	     CS3: Introduction to Symbolic Programming 
	     CS61A: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs

	University of California, Davis 
	     CS35: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs 

	Stanford University 
	     CS221: Introduction to Artificial Intelligence
	     CS242: Programming Languages 

	San Jose State University 
	     145A/B: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs 
	Santa Clara University 
	     COEN172: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs 
	     COEN261: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs 

	University of California, Santa Cruz 
	     CMP131: Semantics of Programming Languages 

If you didn't already know, SICP is one of "the" books on Scheme, and
in fact, programming in general, so that's a point in favor of those
courses that use it.


-Rob

p.s. You might also want to check out the following (which contain some
information also useful for self-study, e.g., <URL:http://www.cs.rice.edu/
CS/PLT/Teaching/material.shtml>):

	<URL:http://www.cs.rice.edu/CS/PLT/Teaching/>
	<URL:http://www.cs.indiana.edu/eip/>

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Rob Warnock, 7L-551		····@sgi.com   http://reality.sgi.com/rpw3/
Silicon Graphics, Inc.		Phone: 650-933-1673 [New area code!]
2011 N. Shoreline Blvd.		FAX: 650-933-4392
Mountain View, CA  94043	PP-ASEL-IA
From: Bob Manjoney
Subject: Re: Lisp classes
Date: 
Message-ID: <A2rT.3272$Dq4.1305735@news.internetMCI.com>
Franz Inc. (http://www.franz.com)  I believe has their next Common Lisp/CLOS
Training class in June.  They're in Berkeley, and I plan on being there
myself.


Regards,
Bob Manjoney
Senior Developer
McHugh Software International
http://www.mchugh.com

Rob Warnock wrote in message <············@fido.asd.sgi.com>...
>Jeff Fohl  <····@fohl.com> wrote:
>+---------------
>| I'm interested in taking a Lisp class - I'm a total beginner.
>| Does anyone know of any classes taught in the San Francisco Bay Area?
>+---------------
>
>(*chuckle*) Each time I get the announcement flyers for places like
>The College Of San Mateo (etc.) and their extension and night classes,
>I glance through to see what kind of computer courses they offer for
>the public. Seems to be mostly (1) general introduction to computers
>[e.g., how to surf the Web], or (2) how to use particular PC apps, or
>(3) programming the currently "marketable" languages (C, C++, Java, VB,
etc.).
>
>But several SF Bay Area colleges (and at least one high school) *are*
>teaching Lisp (well, most are teaching Scheme, but you could make the
>transition to Common Lisp easily enough from that), if you can arrange
>to audit one of their courses [or take it for credit, whatever]. According
>to the Schemer's list <URL:http://www.schemers.com/schools.html>, the
>following Bay Area schools teach Scheme:
>
> Lick-Wilmerding High School, San Francisco, CA
>      [No course info given]
>
> Mills College, Oakland, CA
>      114/214: Programming Languages
>      [But only three lectures out of a full survey of languages]
>
> University of California, Berkeley
>      CS3: Introduction to Symbolic Programming
>      CS61A: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
>
> University of California, Davis
>      CS35: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
>
> Stanford University
>      CS221: Introduction to Artificial Intelligence
>      CS242: Programming Languages
>
> San Jose State University
>      145A/B: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
> Santa Clara University
>      COEN172: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
>      COEN261: Structure and Interpretation of Computer Programs
>
> University of California, Santa Cruz
>      CMP131: Semantics of Programming Languages
>
>If you didn't already know, SICP is one of "the" books on Scheme, and
>in fact, programming in general, so that's a point in favor of those
>courses that use it.
>
>
>-Rob
>
>p.s. You might also want to check out the following (which contain some
>information also useful for self-study, e.g., <URL:http://www.cs.rice.edu/
>CS/PLT/Teaching/material.shtml>):
>
> <URL:http://www.cs.rice.edu/CS/PLT/Teaching/>
> <URL:http://www.cs.indiana.edu/eip/>
>
>-----
>Rob Warnock, 7L-551 ····@sgi.com   http://reality.sgi.com/rpw3/
>Silicon Graphics, Inc. Phone: 650-933-1673 [New area code!]
>2011 N. Shoreline Blvd. FAX: 650-933-4392
>Mountain View, CA  94043 PP-ASEL-IA
From: Benjamin Shults
Subject: Re: Lisp classes
Date: 
Message-ID: <352433A6.A5A941A3@kenyon.edu>
Jeff Fohl wrote:
> I'm interested in taking a Lisp class - I'm a total beginner. Does
> anyone know of any classes taught in the San Francisco Bay Area?

Buy Shapiro's book "Common Lisp: An interactive approach"
and teach yourself.  Once you've gone through the first
3 parts of that, you will be ready to read and understand
Steele's CLtL2 or the hyperspec.

This is how I learned it.

Benji Shults
Dept. of Math
Kenyon College