From: ·····@nexxus.novasys.com
Subject: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
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I'm interested in learning Lisp, but I've been having a lot of trouble
finding a good book on it.  Does anyone know of a decent book on
Common Lisp?

Thanks,
·····@nexxus.novasys.com

From: David Clark
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <4vaodt$l1u@badger.wmin.ac.uk>
ANSI Common Lisp, Paul Graham, Prentice-Hall, 1996, isbn 0 13 370875 6

when you've mastered that pray that the same author/publishers On Lisp (1994 isbn 0 
13 030552 9) is back in print.
From: Kenny Tilton
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
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·····@nexxus.novasys.com wrote:
>I'm interested in learning Lisp, but I've been having a lot of trouble
>finding a good book on it.  Does anyone know of a decent book on
>Common Lisp?
>
>Thanks,
>·····@nexxus.novasys.com
>

Man, are you lucky. Paul Graham just came out with something called "ANSI 
Common Lisp" from Prentice-Hall. (Sorry, my copy not at hand, so no ISDN.)

Grab it. Later, you'll want his "On Lisp" or Norvig's "Pardigms of AI 
Programming" which is also an advanced Lisp book.

Happy Lisp <g>
From: Yoda (Rodrigo Ventura)
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <892.6808T782T2564@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
Kenny Tilton wrote (21-Aug-96 04:03:56):
>Man, are you lucky. Paul Graham just came out with something called "ANSI
>Common Lisp" from Prentice-Hall. (Sorry, my copy not at hand, so no ISDN.)

        A book with ISDN? Not! 8-)
        The ISBN of the book is 0-13-370875-6
              ~

        Regards,



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From: ···········@delphi.com
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <pLCTBPc.stevenbayne@delphi.com>
>I'm interested in learning Lisp, but I've been having a lot of trouble
>finding a good book on it.  Does anyone know of a decent book on
>Common Lisp?
>
>Thanks,
>·····@nexxus.novasys.com


I too am learning Lisp. If my experience with first the meta
theory of first order logic is any indication, one has too
be careful of taking advice from people already familiar
with what you learn; but then, given the alternative of
taking advice from idiots, I don't know what to say
except check out a couple of suggestions before committing
yourself to a long term project.

I notice that in FAQ file # 1 that Patrick H. Winston
and B. K. P. Horn's text _LISP_ third edition. Addison
Wesley. was not given much fan fare. It is also described
as not being a tutorial, or some such thing.

What I like so far (I am on p. 100) are

1. Its thoroughness

2. Its technical accuracy

3. Its pedagogical soundness
   (though recursion should have been introduced 
    with non arithmetic examples)


Also,

4. Although not mentioned in FAQ is the fact that accompanying
   the text - though purchased separately - is a programmed
   learning program: Golden Common Lisp which I obtained
   at 

      Gold Hill, Inc

   Since I lived within walking distance of Gold Hill in Cambridge MA
   I walked over to the offices near Brookline st.; But the address
   given on the blurb at the back of the book gives the address as

         Gold Hill, Inc
         26 Landsdowne Street
         Cambridge, MA 02139
         phone 617-621-3300

As for the programmed learning guide to the Winston/Horn text, I 
have mostly good things to say. Occasionally there isn't enough 
space and you have to fiddle a bit. And a couple of other minor
conflicts with the text (text wins), but all in all a sound 
investment. Comes with GMACS editor etc.

As a novice, let me encourage you. Although I have only finished
27 lessons on the program, I have come to appreciate the
elegance and versatility of this language. I know no other
programming, but am learning this language as a conduit
to computational linguistics which I am pursuing because
of skepticism regarding what I have been doing in first order
logic having to do with natural language inference involving
embedded clauses and a couple other things. So I think LISP
is aesthetic and useful; I know of no better combination.

Best of luck. I hope the both of this can learn this thing. There
are a lot of "jiggers" and "do-dads."

I can't figure why this Lisp program costs a hundred bucks and
another a few thousand and another 500 bucks. I hope I am
learning Lisp and not something else with an identical 
spelling.


Best

Stevie "Magoo" Bayne
Somerville Boxing Club
From: Rainer Joswig
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <joswig-2208960734570001@news.lavielle.com>
In article <···················@delphi.com>, ···········@delphi.com wrote:

> I notice that in FAQ file # 1 that Patrick H. Winston
> and B. K. P. Horn's text _LISP_ third edition. Addison
> Wesley. was not given much fan fare. It is also described
> as not being a tutorial, or some such thing.

A good choice.

Rainer Joswig
From: Laurence Kramer
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <321DA9FE.41C67EA6@stsci.edu>
···········@delphi.com wrote:
> 
[snip]
> I know no other
> programming, but am learning this language as a conduit
> to computational linguistics which I am pursuing because
> of skepticism regarding what I have been doing in first order
> logic having to do with natural language inference involving
> embedded clauses and a couple other things. 

If you can code a parser to correctly disambiguate the above sentence
you are well on your way to being successful both in computational
linguistics and Lisp. ;-}


Larry
From: Yoda (Rodrigo Ventura)
Subject: Re: Books on Common Lisp
Date: 
Message-ID: <1192.6807T1013T1492@alfa.ist.utl.pt>
randd wrote (19-Aug-96 23:02:31):
>I'm interested in learning Lisp, but I've been having a lot of trouble
>finding a good book on it.  Does anyone know of a decent book on
>Common Lisp?

        Hi. I've been using "ANSI Common Lisp" from Paul Graham (prentice
hall, 1996). I really like the book, since not only it uses a tuturial level
in some chapters, but also it has great reference appendix, refering lots of
functions (if not all). I'd advise that book for learning and common use, and
the ClTL2 (from Luc Steels I guess, available on the net) for some more
cunning languages aspects.

        Regards,

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